ntsc to pal not smooth on dvd player

[macyman]

I encoded using TMPGEnc an .avi NTSC to
PAL, using the VideoCD (PAL).mcf template.
The only other non-default setting changed
was "No margin (keep aspect ratio)".
It just seems that when playing on my DVD player
it is not 100% smooth. Should I have clicked
maybe 3:2 pulldown or inverse telecine?
Sorry but I am lost...and frustrated.

[sporlan]

I have had the same problem and had to deinterlace the ntsc movies they still were not smooth so I just started making ntsc ones they still play on my dvd players. Pal movies are much easier to do.

[_iznougoud_]

Frameserve from virtualdub, doing the frame rate conversion from there. (if you don't know how to frameserve from virtualdub, look at some guides that you can find in this site).

Make sure 'do not frame rate conversion' inside TMPGenc's advanced settings IS activated.

Everything should go smooth...

[macyman]

frameserve with virtualdub doesn't work...I followed
the guide. Any different if I use Adobe Premier
to frame serve?

[bugster]

Encoding a 23.97fps NTSC movie as Pal as you have described will cause slightly jerky playback as TmpGenc inserts extra frames to make up the difference.

Proper NTSC to Pal conversion requires extra effort and is often not required. (there is a guide on this site). Most if not all European DVD players will quite happily accept NTSC disks. They output either NTSC signals or convert to PAL 60 (60 filed per second PAL). Your TV will have to be able to handle this signal but again, most European TV's sold in the last 10-15 years will do so, even if the fact was not advertised on the box!

If your player is multi-region and you have ever played a region 1 DVD, then NTSC is no problem, so just encode to NTSC. If not then just try it and see what happens.

Hope this helps

[banjazzer]

If the source really is NTSC (rather than NTSC film) then the framerate difference will make for a far from smooth result! Most recent PAL players will play NTSC, so I would have opted for using the NTSC template to match the source avi.

[macyman]

hey bugster!
I tried what you said but even though
it's smooth now it is in black and white,
plus it looks like there are little dots in it too.
The DVD player is a Pioneer DV-340 (brand new)
and the TV set is probably 5 years old.
I don't get it.
Any other options?
Thanks again.

[banjazzer]

1. If your TV has another scart socket, try that.
2. Check your scart cable has all pins connected - many don't.

To confirm there is nothing wrong with your disc, perhaps try it on someone else's player.

[bugster]

As banjazzer said also:

Check your DVD players manual/menus for options regarding NTSC and PAL 60, it may be possible to change what is output.

Check your TV's specs via the manual or manufacturers website, you may be able to adjust something.

Playing in B&W means (or so I believe) the DVD player is outputing NTSC but the TV cannot handle it properly. If that is the case and you can't change any settings to fix it the I am afraid you are out of luck and will have to learn how to do NTSC to PAL conversions properly. Its not that difficult but can be time consuming. Take a look here:

http://www.vcdhelp.com/forum/userguides/78178.php