Native SVCD capture using AIW8500 and TV7.7

[ffujita]

Maybe I'm just being greedy. I can make things work, but I'm hoping someone can show me an easier way.

I'm using the AIW Radeon 8500DV as a capture card with the TV 7.7 software -- the goal is to make a SVCD as easily as possible. I've set the Digital VCR custom setting to SVCD. If I take the captured file and burn using Nero (with plug-in), the resulting SVCD has a blank video but functioning audio (whatever was on the screen before the file continues while the audio plays).

If I take the captured file and insert it into Ulead Video Studio 5 and then write as a SVCD file and burn it with Nero -- everything works very well. However the Ulead conversion process takes quite a long time. So I was wanting to know a couple of things.

1) Has anybody been able to burn a SVCD from TV 7.7 capture files directly and get them to work? If so, how?

2) Is there any other one-step archiving process?

Thanks in advance.

Frank
P.S. I've been working with ATIs Customer Support and they say that I'm SOL
P.P.S. I should have read in this forum before I bought my AIW, but I didn't even know about the existence of this forum until recently.

[edthesped]

The only fix I've found is to use Intervideo's WinDVR. I do wish I could get ATI's TV to work though, I really hated to have to buy another piece of software to capture to SVCD.

If anyone has found a way to get ATI's TV function to capture to SVCD properly I would love to hear it.

[oldfart13]

Have you tried Stinky's Registry tool from here or Doom 9? I thought there was a direct SVCD VBR recording setting. Let me check...


Yes, there is an SVCD setting in it. I have used this tool to make caps at 480*480 9MB/s without dropping frames in MMC7.6 so it should also work in 7.7. I use the high bitrate captures as my master especially if I am capping from VHS tape so I can then frameserve into Virtual Dub to use the filters in that program. As I understand it, you want to go directly to SVCD? The Registry Tweeker should help...

[tjdmobile]

Here's what I am using:

MMC 7.7 -
Custom SVCD (352x480)
1.43 Bitrate (CBR)
Max CPU / ME range
Split file 800MB CDR

IMPORTANT: Must use Stinky tool to up the motion estimation for horiz and vert to maximum. Failure to do this results in fairly blocky video. Doing this change makes a huge difference in the final quality outcome.

This setup renders me 1 hour and 2 seconds per 80 minute disk. I use Ulead DVD MF to burn. No sync issues or (de)mux necessary. This is how I record everything except for home movies. I am very pleased with the outcome on my large screen tv. All my source video is via DirecTV through SVideo cable. No dropped frames.

TJD

[edthesped]

I'm gonna try Stinky's tool now. But tjcmobile isn't MMC7.7 supposed to handle SVCD? I have a setting but when I record using it I get audio and a blue screen for the image. I'll see if Stinky's tool fixes it and report back.

[edthesped]

Ok, Stinky's hack didn't work for me, kind of.

I can now record in SVCD format and playback on the computer without problem but when I burn a disk using Nero and play on my stand alone player, GE1101P, I get a blue screen on my TV and audio. On the other hand, I now have WinDVR and it works fine so it is not a complete loss, but the ability to use Gemstar would have been mighty nice.

ATI really seems to have dropped the ball on their TV program.

[oldfart13]

Ah, I see. You are trying to get around the encode times. I am doing to SVCD and I'm not worried about the encode times. I have been doing this:

1) Encode 480*480 6MB/s 224 kbit stereo CBR
2) Edit with MyFlix XE or M2 Edit Pro
3) Frameserve to Virtual Dub for filtering
4) Encode to SVCD VBR CQ spec using TMPGEnc

Doing it this way has resulted in files that are 690 - 695 Megs per 1 hour TV show without commercials. This fits an 80 min CDR perfectly and Nero burns them with no complaints...

On your GE, are you sure it will playback at the rate you are setting for SVCD? Blue screens tell me it can't...

[edthesped]

Oldfart, I never considered that my bitrate was too high. I'll have to look into that when I have time, probably this weekend.

What I'm really trying to do is take the lazy way out. I want to record a show, or videocap, as an SVCD and burn using Nero without any other processing and watch on TV through my DVD player. I can do it without problem on WinDVR but I can't use Gemstar, which I really like, to setup my recording times. I want it all!

As I find shows I want to permantly archive I'll play with trying to improve quality but for now I just want to record shows as easily as possible so my wife and I can watch them after the youngins go to bed.