How do you change a Fullscreen movie into a Widescreen movie

[puertorican138]

How do you change a Fullscreen movie into a widescreen movie?

[dazsafc]

I`ve never tryed it, but I would have thought in TMPGenc, on the output video change it from 1:1 to 16:9.

[boss]

whats the point of changing a fullscreen movie to a widescreen one? would'nt you lose some of the picture?

[Sun_Child]

Ifo files are basically what tells a DVD what you have as far as Video, Audio, and subtitles. It tells the DVD what aspect ratio to play it at amongst other things. Sometimes changing the default will work just fine if the video is non-anamorphic. Most DVD's however are anamorphic so a lot of times you shouldn't change it.

There are 2 IFO files you are going to be looking at. It will be called VTS_0#_TS.IFO. Where the # is, there will be a number which corresponds to the ORIGINAL vob's that it was ripped from.

First we have to examine the file that VTS_0#_TS.IFO. Use IfoEdit, and click Open, and find that IFO file. As you can see the Video format is 16x9 and letterboxed. Next click on VTSI_MAT. Scroll down till you get to the address 00000200.

The numbers you'll see on the right need to be changed to 17152 meaning 4x3, Unspecified, Mpeg 2, NTSC, VBR, with nothing in the CC. 20096 means the movie is 16x9, automatic letterboxed, and Field 1 in GOP is checked. You really don't have to understand what all of this means. Double click on that item 00000200 and it will bring up a popup menu. Change the aspect ratio to 4:3 and click the Save button. It will ask you about overwriting the current file and overwriting the BUP file. Just click say yes to both. Now your ready to burn a 16:9 movie to 4:3 aspect ratio.

I know that this will work for you, but the video may appear a bit streched out. At least you can do it in IfoEdit and preview it before you burn it. Hey, if you descide that you don't like it, then go back and change it to 16:9 again. I would sugest that you save a BACKUP COPY of the VTS_0#_TS.IFO file somewhere just in case you make a mistake.

Good Luck

[ViperXT]

I don't think this is a good idea. For one thing, when a movie is changed from widescreen to fullscreen you lose nearly half the picture. Now, if you chop the picture even further you don't have much left.

[Greg12]

unless you have a widesceen tv, I cannot imagine why you would do it.


It can't be done btw.

[circleking]

How do you change a Fullscreen movie into a widescreen movie?

What format is your movie? mpg? avi? dvd?

[dwisniski]

If you are using TMPGE to encode, go to the MPEG settings file, go to Advanced, Double click on Clip frame. Then click on the Top and Bottom mask options and clip the video about 10 on each (this is optional). Then click on Arrange setting, choose Center (custom size) and choose your resolution about 720 x 400 (if you're doing DVD). You will still have DVD resolution, it will just resize the video to look widescreen. I do this with my full screen captures to give them more of a widescreen look. Hope this helps.

John 3:16

[ViperXT]

If you are using TMPGE to encode, go to the MPEG settings file, go to Advanced, Double click on Clip frame. Then click on the Top and Bottom mask options and clip the video about 10 on each (this is optional). Then click on Arrange setting, choose Center (custom size) and choose your resolution about 720 x 400 (if you're doing DVD). You will still have DVD resolution, it will just resize the video to look widescreen. I do this with my full screen captures to give them more of a widescreen look. Hope this helps.

No offence but this is really a bad idea. I bet your new "widescreen" version of a show had less than 40% of the picture that the original had! I love widescreen but why bother to cover the picture when it is unnecessary and is actually hiding informationinstead of showing it in the original aspect ratio. Here is a text picture example!

Here is the original 16:9 movie.
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| This is what you see !!!!!!!!!! |
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|___________________________|

Here is the movie after being butchered by Pan and Scam(look how much of the picture is missing!)
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|is what you see !!!!!! |
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|__________________|


Now here is the Pan and Scam made widescreen again(compare to the original!)

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|is what you see !!!!!! |
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|__________________|


I know my "drawings" are crude but just look at the loss of picture information.

[ViperXT]

My drawings didn't turn out the way i meant but you get the idea.

[boss]

yeah as i said earlier, there is no point to this nonsense. is the film you're trying to convert a stanley kubrick film?(he shot many of his films in full frame.) if so don't bother. he wanted his films to be seen this way. if it's a film by another director or a tv show the same applies. if it came in fullframe it's best watched in fullframe.

[mh2360]

OK, do you mean that you want to convert a 4:3 encoded movie to a 16:9 movie, i mean to stretch he picture vertically....

[obiwan176]

if a movie was manufactured in fullscreen you can't convert it to widescreen and expect to get the whole picture. 4:3 already has taken some of the picture out so to tranfer it to widescreen all you would be doing is streching that picture not getting more of a picture.

[Martyn1980]

I think the problem is people dont really understand Widescreen, i know people who still think a widescreen version of a film is cutting off the top and bottom of the image, so it looks better on a Widescreen TV, and argue that im wrong about Pan and Scan cutting half the film away, i eventually gave up on them when i took them to the cinema and asked them if they're TV was the same shape as the Cinema screen, and they said "they make 2 versions one for TV one for Cinema"

I keep saying this to people, if you have a film DVD VHS or DIVX then leave it as it is, if its fullscreen, and you have a Widescreen TV, live with it, either stretch it or have borders,if its a widescreen source and you have a 4:3 TV then be happy your seeing it as it was intended and just sit closer to the TV or get the money for a widescreen TV, they're hardly a big luxury any more.

[kwag]

My drawings didn't turn out the way i meant but you get the idea.

Hey Viper, what were your grades in drawing class in Kinder
Just kidding, my drawings are worse than yours

-kwag

[circleking]

puertorican138 (who started this topic) is probably totally confused by now, but here goes:

Hollywood is partially to blame for the confusion in widescreen & pan&scan. Many movies have been made where some scenes were shot in the 4:3 aspect and some scenes in anamorphic (widescreen). When edited for theatre distribution the 4:3 shots are matted and the anamorphic are left as is. Then later when the video is made the 4:3 shots are left as is and the anamorphic ones panned&scanned. One such film was "The Goonies." Get hold of a VHS copy of this film and compare it with the DVD or WS laserdisc.

[mh2360]

Actually, stretching the picture isn't that hard, and you DO see some improvement at higher bitrates. The problem is that when we come to encode the movie using VBR or CQ the file size will be much bigger because we have less "black bars" and more picture....

Sample (VCD encoded, no audio, converted from 4:3 letterbox Divx):

http://www.sh014c6070.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/sample.mpg

[1576]

I have a related problem. Im pretty new to dvd backup so please bear with me. After re-encoding the Mummy in CCE to drop the filesize, and a successful author with Maestro, I get two borders visible on the top and bottom ( a dark grey one above and below the actual movie then a black one on the outside of both) If I re-encode with TMPGEnc, I can set the mask so that the picture looks perfect, just as Id want it on my TV, but Id rather use the speed of CCE. Is this just a trade-off Im going to have to accept, or can I change my settings in either CCE, Maestro or IFOEdit to get me the best result?
Ive also backed up Notting Hill and Reservoir Dogs, and Ive lost thefar left and right of the picture. Should these be Letterbox P/s?
Any help would be greatly appreciated, as I feel Im so close.

[rocknroll_1950]

just use dvd2svcd with cce to encode. all you need to do is direct it to the ifo file you want to encode and set your audio settings and how many cds you want it to be on and it will pick the encoding settings for you

oO ELVIS Oo

[Martyn1980]

I know the borders you speak of, but i used to get that with Tmpeg, when i did not know how to resize it properly, use DVD2SVCD and just change the settings to DVD settings or use Fit CD to create your avs file and tick anamorphic if you have a widescreen TV or uncheck it if you want a letterbox image, but if your backing up to DVD then use anamorphic and the DVD player should be able to switch between the two.

The avs file can be used in Tmpeg or CCE

[Martyn1980]

damn man, you beat me to it, that post must have cam in when i was writing this, though i think hes encoding to a smaller size so it fits on one DVD rather than onto CD's, could be wrong though.