Stinky will you be making a regtool for MMC7.7??? *nt*

[NeVeRLiFt]

[ZAP!!]

I used it for 7.7 and it worked fine.

[NeVeRLiFt]

The capture presets I adjust and tweak using it dont keep the setting so there VCD compliant. The captures made will need muxed.

[Sulik]

The is really no need for stinky's tool in MMC 7.7, since there is now a SVCD preset and you can safely edit the VCD preset without losing VCD comliance (as long as you edit from the default VCD preset as a starting point).

[ZAP!!]

When you adjust the bitrate slider for the VCD preset ya don't know the full precision of the number because it doesn't show you. It may say 1.15 but it could also be 1.15001 - 1.15999 which is not VCD 2 compliant. I dunno why they made a VCD preset if it isn't VCD standard. They should just call it MPEG1.

[Sulik]

The VCD preset in MMC 7.7 is VCD compliant.

MPEG bitrates go in 400bps increments (ie there is no such thing as 1.159999). You can use the arrow keys to move the bitrate a bit up or until it switches from 1.14 to 1.15 if you really want the extra few bits per frames that this gives you (it ain't gonna make a noticeable difference in quality).

If you reaaaally want to, you can edit the bitrate manually in the registry where the preset is saved, but it's probably not worth it.

[next]

Earlier versions of MMC had contained a preset that was vcd compliant. VCD compliancy has never been an issue with earlier versions of MMC. The tool was originally created to set a registry entry that tricked Nero (and many dvd players) to accept XVCD captures as vcd compliant. This was the point of the original MMC tool. This goes back well over a year now and in current terms seems may seem quite passe. It was hot stuff at the time - thanks Stinky.

The trick allowed you to capture in mpeg1 format at bit rate levels well above vcd standards and still pass the vcd compliancy test in Nero. As folks became more in tune with capturing standards and SVCD in particular it became the desire of many people to land on a capture setting in MMC that passed the SVCD test. Stinky spent countless hours on this quest.

Recent versions of MMC have provided SVCD compliant captures. Thanks ATI. But also many thanks to Stinky for pushing the envelope.

But just a reminder - the original intent of the tool was to pass Nero compliancy with non standard vcd bitrates - xvcd. And at no time had the MMC tool ever claimed to be the creator of vcd compliant captures in MMC. The reason I know is because Stinky has always given me credit in his tool as the originator of the xvcd registry trick - quite graciously I might add. Once again - thanks Stinky for all your hard work.

[NeVeRLiFt]

When I used MMC7.6 and adjusted the bitrate of my VCD preset it would not stay VCD compliant and need muxed. Using Stinky's regtool fixed this change the 0 to a 1

Well this dont work with MMC7.7 or MMC7.7.0.1 the 1 always changes back to 0
So do you understand what I'm saying? If I mess with the VCD preset or make a copy of it, its not VCD compliant and will need muxed.
Maybe for you its working but for me and others at Rage3d its not.

Have a good day!

[NeVeRLiFt]

The same goes for the SVCD preset if you even make a copy of it and dont adjust it (same for VCD) it want be complaint. Using Stinky's regtool helped to fix this. But with MMC7.7 and newer ATI has done something and the changes dont stay.


It would be nice to beable to adjust the SVCD preset and it still be complaint and not need muxed.


Hope you can make a small update Stinky.

And thanks for this great tool dude!

[ZAP!!]

When I use the bitrate slider to change the bitrate of a preset and then use the Stinky's tool the bitrate in the reg is close to what I set it to but not EXACTLY standard VCD. I have tried this with 7.6 and 7.7, I don't know about the latest version. ATI said they fixed the non-standard VCD preset to the correct bitrate in 7.7. In 7.6 the bitrate was off and in 7.7 the bitrate had changed but was still not VCD compliant. My goal has been to try to make discs that are as compatable as possible with as many players as possible. So far so good. I've had one complaint and that was because his Sony player will not play CR-R, just CD-RW.

[Sulik]

The VCD bitrate in 7.6 AND 7.7 are VCD compliant.
The 1.15 VCD bitrate is a MAXIMUM video bitrate. It is compliant as long as you don't go above 1.15.

[ZAP!!]

I didn't realize that, Sulik. I have a VCD player that freaks if the bitrate isn't EXACTLY 1.15 and audio 224, no higher no lower. But my Pioneer DV-440 plays higher and lower bitrate disks. I also have a Lasonic DVD player that has the same problem with other bitrates. What is VCD 2.0 anyway?