Convert video tapes to DVD-VCD (450 min.)

[sherif]

Through Computer + TV tuner, how can I convert video tapes to DVD with quality of VCD without converting to VCD firstly?
By other meaning, what is the appropriate profile (audio-video settings) for capturing from TV tuner directly to mpeg?

[sherif]

Additional explanation:
I mean converting contents of the video tapes (not converting the material) to burn DVD with quality of VCD.

[cook9159uk]

There is no direct rout for this capture problem, and if there is, I stand corrected. However, you can capture to avi, then convert to DVIX format, that works for me. The latest version will allow conversion on the fly direct to your DVD burner. DVX will play back on most DVD players without problem. Be sure to set region to "ALL"

[sherif]

I want to burn DVD WITH QUALITY OF VCD through capturing of my TV-tuner.
What are audio-video settings for capture of AVI and DVIX format in this case?
It is avaliable to capture mpeg directly also.

[GajoTNT]

one question, can i encode a Mpg so that it complies to VCD/XVCD and burn it on DVD-R/DVD-RW and will it work on a DVD player?

[Baldrick]

Yes you can capture directly to mpeg using powervcr, winvcr instead of avi but the quality will usualy not be the best...you could try, use either 352x240/288 mpeg1 with 48 kbits audio or try 352x480/576 mpeg2 and keep it interlaced if you want a bit higher resolution.

To get a bit quality capture to avi with some lossless codec and then convert to mpeg.

Both 352x240/288 mpeg1 and 352x480/576 mpeg2 are dvd compliant.

[sherif]

To burn DVD with quality of VCD, we must remember that:
1- Quality of VCD requirs on mpeg-1.
2- If we capture MPEG-1 file with complement VCD, it will be 44100 bit/second in audio settings instead of 48000 bit / second. The DVD with quality of VCD cannot played with DVD player in this case (requires 48000 bit / second). It is contradiction.
3- How can I capture MPEG-1 file (non-comlement VCD in audio settings: 48 kbit /second but with video quality of VCD)?
I tried capturing through WinProducer v.3 DVD edition. I chose 48 kbit /second and the program agreed but I detected that it still 44100 bit /second through the following program: MPEG P properties (small software does not require setup).
PowerVCR does not give me even the freedom to change audio settings to 48000 bit /second.
What is solution?

[Videopimp]

if you had ATI MMC you would be able to capture MPEG-1 @ a bitrate you choose but as Baldrick said, the quality would be bad and you would most likely have audio sync problems

it's best to just capture as AVI then convert to MPG

[GajoTNT]

so if i encode a VCD and burn it on a DVD-R, for it to work on a DVD player it has to have 48khz sampling right? only that requizition?

[sherif]

For question of GajoTNT
Up till now, there is one long solution:
Demultiplex Mpeg-1 files (or dat files on VCDs also) to separated audio and video files. Then convert audio format in the audio file from 44.1 khz to 48 khz. In the end, through authoring DVD tools and DVD burner, you can get DVD with quality of VCD video.
The question is still without answer. We need a method to capture video file with video quality of VCD and audio format at 48 khz directly. Perhaps, we need to a good programmer to set plug-in for any famous program in capturing MPEG-1 files from TV tuner and Video-in cards to capture this kind of MPEG-1 files and perhaps other software to burn this new MPEG-1 files to DVD (not sure). I suggest new name for this MPEG-1 file (MPEG-1.5 file).

[GajoTNT]

kewl thanks, i make most of my VCD's with 48 khz sound anyway

[offline]

The question is still without answer. We need a method to capture video file with video quality of VCD and audio format at 48 khz directly.

You can. Use a hardware mpeg-1 encoder. 48khz is not vcd spec btw.

[sherif]

How can you capture mpeg-1 at 48 khz directly and with any software?

[ChRaN]

48000 bit / second it is 48000 sampels/second aka

a 16bit audio stream at 48Khz is 16bit * 48000 = bit/sec

[arealgijoe]

Dumb Question?????

Can one jsut use Nero to burn VCD, except instead of a std CD-r disk/drive use a blank DVD-R disk/drive.

Sounds simple. will it work, can it work, has anyone tried?

JD

[sherif]

Small points:
1- Burning data DVD differs from burning video DVD which can played by DVD player. In Nero, burning VCD differs from burning video DVD because the last requires preparing for the folder VIDEO-TS through DVD authoring tools. Perhaps, the next versions of Nero will make no difference in burning both VCD and video DVD.
2- The successful experiments in burning MPEG for video DVD depend on MPEG-2. There are no differences in extensions of MPEG-1 and MPEG-2 (*.mpg or *.mpeg).
3- Demultiplexing method to collect VCDs on DVD with quality of VCD is great method for who want to convert VCDs or ready mpeg-1 files, but it is indirect method for who want to convert video tapes.
4- The required solution must not depend on certain hardware. Every capturing tool can capture video files from many kinds. The required solution must depend on software, which is appropriate for many video-in and TV tuner cards.
5- About problem of (44100 and 48000) or (44.1 and 48), the used units were:
a) In WinProducer v.3 – DVD edition: Sample Rate: 44100 samples/sec.
b) In TMPGEnc Plus (v.2.57.41.146): Sampling frequency: 44100 hz.
In the tow programs: Bit rate: 224 kbits/sec. (sorry for any other previous error)
The problem is how to save MPEG-1 at 48000 instead of 44100 hz or samples/sec. directly.