Tmpgenc Plus - Select the statment which you feel is true.

[Trenton_Net]

Hi,

Since quality is so subjective, I wanted to see how "most" people feel about it.

Please select the statment which you feel is true, so that later people can view this post, and at a glance find out which settings is best for them!

Thanks, I really appreciate your time and effort in this matter!

[Trenton_Net]

Thanks guys, I appreciate your time! The more people who vote, the more accurate the stats will be.

[Faustus]

I use TMPGenc for DVD-r and the quality difference is seeable long as you dont have a cheap player / media problem.

[Trenton_Net]

Hi,

Does that only happen with DVDs due to the resolution diffrences compared to a format such as SVCD? If the quality is visibly diffrent, I think most would choose to take the extra time.

[Trenton_Net]

For those who picked the last option, how do you know it produces better quality when you can't tell the diffrence compared to High Quality? I know only 6 people voted for this option out of the 200+ Views this post has gotten, so it might be hard to see, but hopefully some people can give some great feedback about why they choose what they did.

[mb1]

All statements are definitely false as it completely depends on the source material.

For dv material highest gives best quality.
For progressive dvd source mostly high gives best quality.
For animes sometimes motion search precision fast and sometimes high gives best quality
and so on ...

regards
mb1

@ Trenton
If you are doing a frame by frame comparison on the pc you can absolutely verify which one produces better quality.
But as tv sets strongly soften pictures there could be no visible difference on tv.

[Trenton_Net]

Hi,

Thanks for your reply! As to your comments, the poll was intended for use on a DVD movie source. As everyone knows, high and very high settings are always on peoples mind, since they very greatly in encoding time. Of course, most people would rather take the time to do the best quality encode possible. However, since most DVD sources are pretty clean to start with, I think most people find that doing a very high setting doesn't give them any quality diffrence, since the extra motion percision on such a clean sources doesn't make such a big diffrent. I would assume the higher you go in motion percision, the time factor exponentaly increases with less and less quality improvments.

Although the diffrence between the motion searches may very small, I would rather take the extra time if in almost all cases a visible diffrence can be spoted. But since I haven't experimented with the two very much, I decided I should ask the people who know best! Which is why I hope people cast their vote so we can get a sample of what people feel about this subject.

[Jason A]

I've found that with DV or uncompressed footage, the difference in motion precision from Normal to HQ(very slow) doesn't make any difference as long as the bitrate is above 5300 or so....

When doing an hour long vid, I go around 7500 or so and Normal..

But when doing more then 2hrs, I use VBR and Slow...

You will notice a difference on lower bitrates, such as artifacting and you'll see macroblocks if you go under 3800...

But setting it to best (slowest) will usually get rid of most of them..

but again...it only adds 40% or so more encoding time

Jason

[Trenton_Net]

Would tipical VBR 2-pass SVCD bitrates make a diffrence with high or very high motion percision?

[vhelp]

trenton,

Take this with a grain of solt. . .

Sometimes, quality isn't the issue w/ the settings above in your
list. sometimes, size is what matters, and that little bit of
help by selecting "very high quality" actually reduces the final
encode size, and then some.
Basically, this is what that "very high quality" is doing (depending
on each indiv.'s encoding project/quality, etc) -
* reduces final *.mpg file size
* aids in some way, bitrate AVErage
* increases "quality" of final *.mpg by a small/tiny margin
* depending on which "rate control mode" you use, will reflect the final
MPEG files' bitrate vs. size vs. qualit vs. combo of any of above etc.
* any and/or combo of all the above.

That's be MY experience when dealing with "very high quality (slow)"
mode. But, I 99% of the time don't use it in my encodes w/ TMPG.
When you're at the edge of quality vs. size vs. bitrate vs. whatever
else, "very high quality" will be your last hope of whatever final
outcome you can/could expect from TMPG

Now, in addition, depending on the source quality, you could receive
* slightly better *.mpg quality
* and/or better bitrate distribution
basically, the same as above paragraph - kind of redundant.

-vhelp