DazzleDVCIIDVDTMPEGncvcd

[ironman61]

I've captured my video using DVCII in DVD(mpeg2) mode, tried to use TMPEGnc to encode it down to vcd and to burn it with NERO. I read somewhere on here that this was the way to get really good looking quality VCD's. But nero doesn't recognise this as a vcd format. Am i missing steps? I've captured via the DVCII in VCD and SVCD and burned them with no problem. I guess I'm looking for the Holy Grail

[aldus4]

In General what you did was correct - and yes, you can get quite good looking results.

However you should check that you did the following:

The DVC II mpeg that has been made you should split into and audio and video feed (demux) and not use a single source file in TMPGEnc as sound problems have often been reported.

I presume you used the VCD template - check again

Use the "High Quality - slow" setting in motion search precision.

The finished VCD feed - mpeg1 should be usable directly in Nero. What did Nero actually complain about? What was not to VCD standards?

[ironman61]

I just used the file as is, combined that is. Since i haven't used TMPEGnc, how would I go about demuxing it?

Yes I used the VCD template, then i tried to do it using the advanced settings with the VCD compliant standards, no good.

I can't remember exactly but the video was still at 720x480 and the audio was not compliant, looks like it didn't convert it to VCD compliant at all. I'll have to retry and copy down the exact message.

[aldus4]

Hmmm,

OK demuxing in TMPGEnc is very simple. Go to >>>File>>>MPEG Tools>>>De-multiplexing

Check in TMPGEnc that once you have entered your 2 seperate source audio and video files that you then choose your template. Once that is loaded, check that all the settings are within standards of the VCD (size,bitrate,etc.) . (Your template might be faulty)

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[ironman61]

Thanks for the quick response, I'll give it a try

[ironman61]

Well, de-muxing didn't work. I still get the message:invalid video stream: 29.97fps, 720x480 pixels
invalid auido stream: 48000hz.

I checked the template and all the settings are vcd compliant, I used the "High Quality - slow" setting in motion search precision. The whole process for encoding only took a little over 5minutes on my pentiumIII for a 35 minute clip recorded wtih the DVCII DVD(mpeg2)templete,and this was the outcome:
Video: 720x480, bitrate:8,000,000bps
audio: mpeg stereo, sample:48,000, bitrate:224,000bps

this is my video source:mux://C:\My Documents\VCD\De-multiplex\Pinocchio part 2.m2v
my Audio source:mux://C:\My Documents\VCD\De-multiplex\Pinocchio part 2.mp2
this is the reading from bottom box: Video-CD NTSC (MPEG-1 352x240 29.97fps CBR 1150kbps, Layer-2 44100Hz 224kbps)

if it matters im using the beta 12h version of TMPGEnc

anymore help would be greatly Appreciated.

[VidGuy]

I've used DVD2AVI for this - I capture to a single MPEG file @ 720 x 480, 8000 kbps, then use DVD2AVI to demux the output mp2 file (that way I get the offset to remux it - it's usually non-zero, fyi). TMPGEnc uses the d2v file readily without any of the problems associated with using the mpeg.
This has worked very well for me.

[ironman61]

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On 2001-07-30 10:22:29, VidGuy wrote:
I've used DVD2AVI for this - I capture to a single MPEG file @ 720 x 480, 8000 kbps, then use DVD2AVI to demux the output mp2 file (that way I get the offset to remux it - it's usually non-zero, fyi). TMPGEnc uses the d2v file readily without any of the problems associated with using the mpeg.
This has worked very well for me.
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So if i read corectly, i use DVD2AVI to demux, and then use TMPGEnc to encode to VCD. then Nero should like the file?

[aldus4]

Are you positive you actually encode using TMPGEnc by pressing, after you have entered everything, the START button? Sorry if it sounds foolish, but I have had people forgetting this.

For some reason TMPGEnc isn't encoding - as you said the output file had wrong resolution, bitrate and audio frequency.

Question before proceeding: Did you download and install the VFAPI-Plugin for TMPGEnc?

[devinemi83]

Well, dazzle has done it again,they have managed to mess up other people's days. I had the Dazzle DVC2 and I returned that hunk of junk. I first had trouble installing it since I have a dell and it didn't come with a windows cd only a ghost restore disk and it wanted a driver. Well I found that drivers and got it working. I captured a hal an hour tv show and it looked good I captured using their VCD template and Nero accepted it. I put it in my Apex ad660 and it had no audio at all. in the computer it worked fine. Not in the DVD player though. I tried three more time after working with the Movie star software and it didn't work at all,so as a last resort I tried to reinstall the card,big mistake,I did the same thing that I did to install it well,it didn't work windows wouldn't recognize it and I kept getting a Kernal32.dll error message.
I turned back to my good 'ol ATI TV wonder VE which I capture WMV using the Windows media encoder 7, never had a problem since

[aldus4]

@devinemi83

If you were having audio problems it was probably the case that you didn't install or connect the audio wires correctly as they have to be connected through the soundcard of your PC. Other Dazzle DVC II users seem quite happy with the product.

My only question is, if you were so happy with your "good ol' ATI TV" , why on earth did you try out "the hunk of junk" in the first place???

[VidGuy]

To each their own - I had no problem with Dazzle DVC2 on an Athlon 1.33 GHz system running WinME or WinXP (although in WinXP I can only edit - haven't been able to get the capture driver to work). Even their editor seems to work better than most (at least it keeps the sound in sync), although at times it can be slow.

Anyway, ironman61, that's what I do - I have TMPGEnc encode the VCD (SVCD in my case) as a video only file, then mux the final result with the mp2 file that DVD2AVI extract with TMPGEnc or BBMPeg.

Basically when you open the mpeg with DVD2AVI you'll choose "Save a Project" which will save a file called *.d2v - this file is openable by TMPGEnc. There are some encoding guides you can used to the left if you have trouble - it's very similar to encoding a DVD, but using the mpg file instead of the DVD vob files.

[ironman61]

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On 2001-07-30 13:36:37, aldus4 wrote:
Are you positive you actually encode using TMPGEnc by pressing, after you have entered everything, the START button? Sorry if it sounds foolish, but I have had people forgetting this.
Yep, I did press this start button
For some reason TMPGEnc isn't encoding - as you said the output file had wrong resolution, bitrate and audio frequency.

Question before proceeding: Did you download and install the VFAPI-Plugin for TMPGEnc?
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No i haven't downloaded this, what does it do?

[aldus4]

Great question LOL. I haven't the foggiest
All I know is that when you haven't downloaded or installed it incorrectly things start to go wrong in TMPGEnc. I did once try to find out what the special deal with this plugin is...guess what - couldn't find a thing on the web. But as I have said before, I have stopped to ask certain questions and take certain rules for granted i.e. what's the meaning of life etc. <grin>

As the famous konfuzio Nike once said:"Just do it!"

[ironman61]

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On 2001-07-30 16:50:42, aldus4 wrote:
Great question LOL. I haven't the foggiest
All I know is that when you haven't downloaded or installed it incorrectly things start to go wrong in TMPGEnc. I did once try to find out what the special deal with this plugin is...guess what - couldn't find a thing on the web. But as I have said before, I have stopped to ask certain questions and take certain rules for granted i.e. what's the meaning of life etc. <grin>

As the famous konfuzio Nike once said:"Just do it!"
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I downloaded the file, placed it in the same folder as TMPGEnc, hit install. same problem. even robooted. same problem and i matched the plugin to the same version, I'm pulling my hair out!!! oops i don't have that much to do that, i better stop!:>
any other suggestions? I'm gonna try to download TMPGEnc again and try that.....

[aldus4]

Now I'm slowly (only slowly) getting confused. When you said same problem - are you referring to trying to use the d2v or the mpeg file?

Also you should see that if you are using the d2v file that the VFAPI-Plugin is checked in DVD2AVI and you probably have to generate a new d2v file.