new Xbox, new av receiver now I have issues with my game capture

[Live4theApex]

In the past couple of months I've bought an Xbox 360 e (upgrade from original 360) and an h/k avr1650. I use an avermedia game capture HD ii to record gameplay, capture screenshots, etc. It was working fine when I had the 360 hooked straight up to the TV with the avermedia in between. Then when I hooked everything up to the avr with a single HDMI line to the TV is when it started acting undesireably. I can record and play games, but we also use it to watch Netflix and such. When I try loading Netflix it appears to freeze with a black screen. If I have the 360 hooked directly to the avr I have no such problem. Avermedia said it was probably a compatibility issue. I then tried it in between the avr and the TV. Now it says that any signal is hdcp protected. I know the 360 is not natively protected.

Why would the avr add its own protection?

Is it true that the avermedia could be incompatible with the avr?

Is my best solution then to find a hdcp stripper? What would be the best one to buy?

[usually_quiet]

When you are using the XBox 360 e for Netflix, the XBox 360 e should be adding HDCP to its HDMI output. When the XBox 360 e is connected directly to the Avermedia capture device, the Avermedia capture device will not pass through an HDCP protected HDMI signal, preventing you from watching the movie.

The AVR definitely would add HDCP to its HDMI output when you are using the Xbox 360 e to watch Netflix. The AVR has to respect HDCP if it is already present in the signal. ...but since AVRs are often used with HDMI sources that supply HDCP protected output, yes the AVR might also automatically add HDCP to its HDMI output for everything, even video games.

There is an HDMI stripper thread at VideoHelp, if you want to look for it. This splitter is a popular choice: http://www.amazon.com/ViewHD-Port-Powered-Splitter-1080P/dp/B004F9LVXC/ref=sr_1_1?s=el...+hdmi+splitter

Note that while it's OK to ask about using an HDMI splitter for recording video games here, you can't ask about recording streaming rental services like Netflx.

[Live4theApex]

When you are using the XBox 360 e for Netflix, the XBox 360 e should be adding HDCP to its HDMI output. When the XBox 360 e is connected directly to the Avermedia capture device, the Avermedia capture device will not pass through an HDCP protected HDMI signal, preventing you from watching the movie.

The AVR definitely would add HDCP to its HDMI output when you are using the Xbox 360 e to watch Netflix. The AVR has to respect HDCP if it is already present in the signal. ...but since AVRs are often used with HDMI sources that supply HDCP protected output, yes the AVR might also automatically add HDCP to its HDMI output for everything, even video games.

There is an HDMI stripper thread at VideoHelp, if you want to look for it. This splitter is a popular choice: http://www.amazon.com/ViewHD-Port-Powered-Splitter-1080P/dp/B004F9LVXC/ref=sr_1_1?s=el...+hdmi+splitter

Note that while it's OK to ask about using an HDMI splitter for recording video games here, you can't ask about recording streaming rental services like Netflx.

Thanks! All of my questions answered. Of course I only capture gaming, heck I still buy CDs. Should I worry about degrading the video quality if I use a splitter?

[usually_quiet]

Thanks! All of my questions answered. Of course I only capture gaming, heck I still buy CDs. Should I worry about degrading the video quality if I use a splitter?

A splitter won't degrade quality, but an HDMI splitter has to ensure that the resolution used is supported by all the devices connected to it. See https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/334145-HDCP-strippers?p=2239455&viewfull=1#post2239455 for an explanation.

[Markfx]

usually_quiet always hits it out of the park

[Live4theApex]

One final curiosity though: before I had the avr I had zero problems watching streaming services when it passed through the avermedia. The problems only arose when I hooked up the avr. Any idea why?

[usually_quiet]

One final curiosity though: before I had the avr I had zero problems watching streaming services when it passed through the avermedia. The problems only arose when I hooked up the avr. Any idea why?

All I can tell you is that audio receivers often appear to cause problems with other devices connected to their outgoing HDMI connections. If it isn't HDCP, then it is some kind of HDMI handshaking issue. Sometimes the order in which the connected devices are turned on matters.