SVCD 2 DVD-R

[viruz666]

hello, i just wondering if it´s possible to burn a SVCD movie wich is usually 2-3 cd´s on one dvd-r ? and if stand alone dvd players can play them. or can i just watch on pc then?

maybe any1 knows something about it?

and if it´s possible...maybe u can burn 2 movies on 1 dvd-r?

hope to get some answers. thanks

[Dixieland]

heh... your question is very similar to mine. i asked only a few hours ago whether or not one can burn regular VCDs on DVD-R media and if a standalone player could handle them.

http://forum.vcdhelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=98642

my hopes are the same as yours... to take a spanned (S)VCD and merge it down to one file (i've done this often to view movies on a PC without having to change clips/discs) and then burn this file to DVD-R.

I have support emails in to Toshiba asking them if my SD-2800 will handle these sorts of discs and Ahead asking if Nero will support the Pioneer DVR-A04 (a unit i'm considering buying)

I'll post info that i receive to both threads.

- Dixieland

[Baldrick]

It is not possible. Make DVDs with lower bitrate(and maybe also lower resolution) instead and you can fit more on a dvdr.

[Dixieland]

It is not possible.

what sorts of errors does this cause? are the players confused because they sense DVD media but detect a video stream that is not DVD compliant?

- Dixieland

[Dixieland]

Ah... i should have spent more time reading this wonderful site before i asked my question. (Your answer is here as well )

For my question, putting a VCD on a DVD-R...
http://www.vcdhelp.com/vcddvdr.htm

and your issue will be able to work, too, i think...
http://www.vcdhelp.com/svcddvdr.htm

seek and ye shall find.

- Dixieland

[thehutt]

I cant get past step 2 on the svcd link you have.

tmpgenc crashed every time i try to load up the audio file????

any idea what I could be doing wrong?

I click on the stream type as audio only.
Hit the audio source browse button....pick the audio file I just made and it crashes!!!

[nutrition_man]

just click on the reencode your svcd link in the guide, if you still get errors with the audio i found that converting it to a .wav helps, you could use goldwave for something like that. Using this method and keeping the quality under 8,000kps I have been able to make dvd-r's that work on almost every player i try it on. I use a pionner dvr-a03

[Dixieland]

nutrition_man - what software do you use with your A03? have you ever tried Nero for (S)VCD and/or CD-R/RW ?

- Dixieland

[nutrition_man]

Dixieland
Nero 5.5.8.2 workd perfect for me i did get a handful of problems with the earlier versions. I also have a philips cdr-rw and another pioneer a04

[Dixieland]

I also have a... pioneer a04

would it be impolite if i asked for how much you found your A04? Most places i see selling them are around 300 to 400 USD.

- Dixieland

[nutrition_man]

Price watch for like $275

[alkieman]

Although an SVCD video file is still MPEG2 both the video file resolution and the audio sampling rate of 44.1khz are outwith the DVD spec.

SVCD has a video resolution of 640x480 for NTSC or 640x576 for PAL. The DVD spec requires one of the following video resolutions:

MPEG1 352x240 NTSC or 352x288 PAL
MPEG2 352x240 NTSC or 352x288 PAL SIF
MPEG2 352x480 NTSC or 352X576 PAL HALF D1
MPEG2 704x480 NTSC or 704x576 PAL CROPPED D1
MPEG2 720x480 NTSC or 720x576 PAL FULL D1

Audio has to be 48khz sampling rate rather than the SVCD spec of 44.1khz. (Actually DVD also supports 96khz sampling rate but no standard DVD authoring applications can support it, only professional products).

You would need to demultiplex the audio/video to seperate files.
Re-encode the video to 352x240 or 352x288 (better to reduce the resolution than try and encode to a higher resolution otherwise the quality will be pants).
Resample the audio to 48khz
If your DVD authoring app requires mutiplexed MPEG streams you will have to remultiplex the audio and video to a single file.

[thxkid]

WOW! I found it easier to just play the SVCD's on my DVD player and record it right to my Panasonic Home DVD Recoder (DMR E-20) on the 2 hour mode without any loss of quality and a 2 hour movie was done in 2 hours and look just as good as the original SVCD discs. The advantage this has over your PC DVD recorders, built in full frame Time base correcter and other panasonic filters to improve on the source material being recorded.

[Digitizer]

Eh, actually NTSC SVCD is 480x480, and I would recommend re-encoding upwards, that is to 720x480. The quality hit when you go to 352 lines from 480 is too big. I have not noticed any artifacts when using TMPEG for this. It's like capturing from S-VHS, same deal - 480x480.

[alkieman]

oops.. so it is.

480x480 for NTSC SVCD and 480X576 for PAL SVCD.