Sandybridge CPU's back on sale

[wulf109]

I see newegg has re-listed the Sandybridge CPU's for sale. No motherboards of course. I wonder if this foobar will effect sales?

[mh2360]

The boards are still being sold in the UK, but they come with a warning about the chipset issues.

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/250405

[jagabo]

I see newegg has re-listed the Sandybridge CPU's for sale. No motherboards of course. I wonder if this foobar will effect sales?

Intel has already said it will cost them something like a billion dollars. Of course, that's barely more than pocket change to them. It means profits for the year will be $9B instead of $10B, or something like that.

[bendixG15]

Report ............

Fixed Sandy Bridge chipset ‘begins shipping’


http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2011/02/18/fixed-sandy-bridge-chipset-begins-shipping/1

[deadrats]

part of me still thinks that the smart move would be to wait for ivy bridge, there's so much "chatter" about said chips featuring massive amounts of L2 with 30% faster integrated gpu's and 20% faster overall performance compared to sandy bridge cpu's.

on a side note, what i would really like to see is AMD release a bobcat based dual core, with that integrated gpu (with built in uvd) that's clocked at 4 ghz and above, maybe with hyper threading.

i figure if the standard bobcat's only use 18w of juice for the desktop and 9w for notebooks, even at 4 ghz it would be under the 50w mark and quite frankly a really high clocked dual core with lots of ram (and a nice fat L2) would be better suited for most desktop tasks than a slower clocked quad core with smaller L2.

[wulf109]

I suspect there's too much pressure to bring new product to market and that speed is what caused the Sandybridge problem and the speed of fixing the problem may lead to other problems. Intel seems to using planned obsolescence to make us buy new CPU's and now new motherboards for their new socket every 6-12 months. I will pass on Sandybridge and probably Ivybridge. I'm not a big of CPU integration.

[DarrellS]

Intel seems to be using planned obsolescence to make us buy new CPU's and now new motherboards for their new socket every 6-12 months. I will pass on Sandybridge and probably Ivybridge.

I've noticed the same thing. It's not like the old days when you could actually upgrade a computer without having to totally rebuild it. Intel is running as fast as they can from the era of the socket 775 chip where you only had to upgrade the CPU to boost your performance. Now you have to buy a new motherboard and memory every time you upgrade your CPU. I wish they would just pick a socket type and stick with it for more than 6 months. Why couldn't the Clarkdale, Lynnfield and Sandybridge all share the same socket type?

[RabidDog]

To be fair to Intel you cant expect to stuff a CPU AND a GPU into the same socket that was only meant to take a CPU. Its not like they leave a few pins spare, just in case.. I agree about too many socket changes and socket types tho. Back in the day, you could get socket adapters to fit new CPU's into old sockets. You wont get std CPU's going above 3.6 ghz++ as those sorts of speed cause too many problems, mostly Heat and power. From here on in its all about work per watt, multi-Cpus and faster ram,disk. Cpu's are Fast enough, just not clever enough. I expect they'll grow out the L2,L3 cache into main memory, after all they have to use those wafers for something, and their profits are already so obscene .....

Non-integrated CPU will become a Niche market for servers and other specialized uses.

[jagabo]

To be fair to Intel you cant expect to stuff a CPU AND a GPU into the same socket that was only meant to take a CPU. Its not like they leave a few pins spare, just in case..

Actually, they could easily have designed a socket that would accept a CPU and a CPU+GPU. They know what products they have in development and could accommodate them. It would cost a bit more per motherboard. And some CPUs would end up using a socket that's larger than necessary because of the unused pins.