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    Ok I thought this might be an interesting poll but I don't know how this would be pollerized properly. So I think an open discussion is more important.

    How old is the oldest WORKING burnt disc that you have made?

    Is it a cdr, dvdr, or bdr? (or throw in hddvdr for that matter)

    What brand?

    I have some discs from 2003 or so that I can try to see if they still work. I didn't have a cd burner or dvd burner before than (I know I was deprived in my youth ). I would be interested to see if they have been inflicted with the so called dvd rot or not (or cd rot, can't remember which is which in the oldest discs I have).

    So how about it? Why not take a minute and dig out your oldest burnt discs and see if they still work. Or if you know they still work check out the date you made them (or guestimate if that info isn't available).
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    I have CDs o fdata and software that are well prior to 2000 that still happily work
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    Wow guns1inger that was a fast response. You don't happen to have a firm year on those do you? (out of curiosity obviously)
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    I don't have the discs here, but I am going on the content I know they contain, and where/when I working at the time. I know some of the files pre-date Y2K remediation work, and some container tender documents going back to 96/97. These were all burned at the time, not archived years after the fact.
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    Originally Posted by guns1inger View Post
    I don't have the discs here, but I am going on the content I know they contain, and where/when I working at the time. I know some of the files pre-date Y2K remediation work, and some container tender documents going back to 96/97. These were all burned at the time, not archived years after the fact.
    To use a preferred movie quote of mine:

    Impressive, most impressive.
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    I also have some playstation (original PSONE before it was called that) backups that still play happily in my old unit that date from 98/99. That old PS is doing duty at my folks house for when their grand-kiddies go up to stay.
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    The oldest disk I have is from the fall of 2003, probably late Sept-Oct of 2003. It is a Verbatim 4x +R disk, mid code MCC 002, burned in an NEC 1300a at 2.4x. Still works fine.
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  8. The oldest disc I can find right now is from 1997. It's a CD-R with about 450 MB on it. All files can be read accessed without problem. Nero's transfer rate graph is nice and smooth.

    The oldest DVD+RW and DVD+R I have were burned in 2003. No problems with those either.
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    Pretty much the same here as everyone else so far.
    Some PSX games on CDR from before i originally joined here in 2001, all the sony's, verbatims, ect still play fine, had some PSX games on some no name silver CDR's that went kaplooie from the silver backing flaking off and some that just don't work or read in any PC drives but look perfectly fine.
    They also have to be from around 97.

    I still have my first cd burner that burned at a whopping 1-2X!!
    LOL!!

    I know specifically some DVDr's i have from 03/04 that still play fine, Verbatim media, i'm sure i have some maybe a little older but with as many as i have it would take some time to go through them and check when they were burned, it's hard to remember when something was burned from that long ago, LOL!!

    And the same with failures, but i am sure it was some crap media before i was really sure and knew any better

    Back when everyone started burning DVDr's it was pretty much try everything even though i was a Verbatim fan because of having such good luck with their CDR's for years & years before.

    Burning PSX games way back when verbatim always seemed to have a better success rate.

    And like guns1inger said, i still have 3 of the old fat PSX's with the ports on the back for plugging in the old game sharks & pro action replay carts& 1 of the newer little PSONE's, all work great.
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    Not to change the topic but I thought I would add to it by saying that I have quite a number of burned DVDs from late 2003. Most all +R and-R play just fine. The ones that don't have been ones that have begun to change color. Also some +RWs have begun to get cloudy. The real bad cloudy ones do seem to have a problem playing. But surprisingly they can be re-written and the cloudiness disappears with the re-write and they are good again.
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    Holding one in my hand that says it was burned on January 4th, 1996. Disc is data disc CD-R. Burned on a Plextor as I recall. Disc is gold in color and the programs still work! All my DVD-RAM discs still work. Those are from about 2003 when I bought my Panasonic E80H DVD recorder. I'd have to check on my oldest other discs but by far the CD-Rs seem to have the best longevity.
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    Originally Posted by cal_tony View Post
    Most all +R and-R play just fine.
    That's because + or - have nothing to do with the longevity or lifespan.
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    Originally Posted by yoda313 View Post
    Is it a cdr, dvdr, or bdr?
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    I'd have to check on my oldest other discs but by far the CD-Rs seem to have the best longevity.
    Well, seeing as CDR's were around many many years before DVDr's, of course those would, up to this point, have the most longevity.....

    Now if in 50 years, DVDr's were still working and no CDR's that were 55 years old were working, then DVDR's would have the longer longevity

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    That's because + or - have nothing to do with the longevity or lifespan.
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    I still have a few data CDs dated 1993, which probably cost more than my PC (including monitor).That's not including a few pressed ones from years earlier.

    I have two burned DVDs from 1999 that still work.
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    I didnt think burners became available till circa 98.
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    Earliest DVD is a Ritek recorded in my Philips DVDR985 from around 2002. I have many data CDs that are much older than that.
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    I made my first CD Audio compilation in april 1997. It still fine works ! brand is Fujifilm, green dye. I also have some with gold dye by Kodak that supposed to last up to one hundred year !!! These oldest CD-Rs contain CD-DA music and personal data in mix mode. It's amazing to see my old and first scanned pictures.
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    Originally Posted by noahtuck
    Well, seeing as CDR's were around many many years before DVDr's, of course those would, up to this point, have the most longevity.....
    Well I do understand that. I guess my reasoning was to include your personal collection. Many who start burning may have bypassed cds and never had a need to burn a audio or data cdr.

    By the way, what was the name for recordable hd-dvds? Did they have a special designation like the dvd-r, dvd+r et. al.?
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    Everything I tested of my recordings since 2001 is still working. Only used TDK and Verbatim.
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    I have fujifilm backed up cd's from 2001 that play perfect and my oldest dvd(RICOH stamped media) is from 2002, burnt on a Ricoh 5125 at 2.4x...play's and scans out great. Ofcourse back then the slower media was pretty damn good (TY and verbatim and RICOH)
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    Originally Posted by Dr.Gee View Post
    I didnt think burners became available till circa 98.
    Nope, was a year or two before that.
    Not sure of the exact year but it was some time before 98.

    I remember when Pioneer released the first cd burner drive for a home pc and it was around $1400.00 because me and a buddy talked about how we could not wait until they came down to the $300-$400 price range so we could afford to buy one.
    And they did not come down overnight.
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  22. The earliest one I can verify is July 15, 1997. It's a bootleg recording on audio CD. It's on TDK 74min/650MB. But I think I might have something from as early as 1995. But this one was easy to find. It's a three-disc set and I just ripped it recently to back up to FLAC.

    I am sure I have one or two from 1995 too. A friend of mine had a standalone Marantz audio CD recorder and I got a few bootleg audio CDs from him. OK, I am holding one in my hands right now, but I can't tell what brand it is. It's blank label CD, gold on one side and green on the other. The back side of the case says it's a Taiyo Yuden.


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    Originally Posted by Dr.Gee View Post
    I didnt think burners became available till circa 98.
    It depends on the type of burner.

    I "borrowed" a cd burner from a company (supplied my own media), which cost something ridiculous at the time, like $20k.

    My first DVD burner used was a Pioneer (Panasonic?), back in '98, when it cost the company a "low" $5k. The first DVD burner that I personally owned was back in 2000 or 2001 (about $300, $3-$5 for media). Still have my first disc from that one, too - home video.
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    2 Gold Kodaks (CD-R) from around 96 i think as far as i can tell, maybe 97, with about 20 games on each, just running through them all is good! Except the quality of the games!!
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    Don't know if this counts but I have two CDs that were burned by a friend and given to me in 1997 or 1998- can't remember exactly.

    The oldest burned DVDs I have were recorded on a Panasonic DMR-E30K; 2002 I think.
    They play perfectly, at least the ones I've tried recently did.
    They were recorded primarily on TDK 2X -Rs. There are also some 2X -R Maxells and a few Optodisc 4X -Rs.
    I also have a few Panasonic and Optodisc DVD-RAM (2X) recorded during that approximate time.
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    I have a CD-R that I personally made in either 2000 or 2001 on Maxell that's an audio CD and it still works fine. As Supreme2k points out, CD burners WERE available in the 1990s, but they were insanely expensive and basically only businesses had them. I can't check right now, but I think in my house I still have a data CD-R that a friend made for me maybe around 1998 and I would guess it still works. The media was really really expensive in the 1990s. I seem to recall that the discs were at least $20 US each at one point in the decade, but whether that was 1998 or 1995 or earlier I don't remember.
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    Originally Posted by wtsinnc View Post
    The oldest burned DVDs I have were recorded on a Panasonic DMR-E30K; 1992 I think.
    Is that a typo ?
    I'm pretty sure recordable dvd's did not exist before actual pressed dvd's

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  28. My oldest DVDs were burned with Nero 5.5 on a Sony DRU500a that I got through our wholesaler here at work. That was when it first hit the market. After that first one they were back ordered for quite a while. People were calling up looking for them as Christmas Gifts. Christmas 2002 / 2003 as I remember it.

    I got some of the Princo 1X with the Glossy white top. They still work. Then I used the ones that were coded ricohjpn ... They still work too.

    I always had good luck with the MIJ Fuji CDs & DVDs.
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    Noahtuck;

    Yes, it was a typo and I've corrected it.
    The year should have been 2002, not 1992.

    Thanks for pointing it out.
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    the oldest 'disks' i have are the very first ones i ever bought... fujifilm dvd-rw (up to 2x write speed!). they were purchased somewhere in the early 2000's. i still use them to this day, and they have performed flawlessly every single time! i've had data on some of them for many years and they read just fine! (but slow as HELL to burn )
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