Ripping DL Discs and Im confused...

[frieday]

I used to use Nero to burn DL discs after simply ripping the video_ts folder using the anydvd software...

However recently after watching a few of my backups ive noticed about a 1 sec pause in the middle of the disc which isnt a huge deal because the rest of the movie plays perfect but DL discs are expensive and id like to get my method down so the discs play flawlessly throughout.

After finally taking some advice I got here about imgburn being better at choosing the layer break point, I decided to download and install imgburn. However Im in a situation right now where im trying to burn the video_ts folder and it wants me to choose the layer break? I really dont want to do this im sure I could pick one that works just fine but I would prefer to have the original layer break point....

Doing some research am I correct in assuming that to retain the original layer break point you have to rip an .iso or .img file and that ripping the video_ts folder loses the correct original layer break?

Wondering can anydvd rip a .img or .iso that keeps the original layer break or do I need to use DvdDecrypter or something else?

I also would like to know if an .mds file is required to retain the orignal layer break that evidently DvdDecrypter gives you after the rip?

I prefer to keep using AnyDvd because it is updated regularly but ultimately I just want to know the best route to get a perfect 1:1 copy with the original layer break so I dont notice any pauses half way through

I got the verbatims too yesterday so im all set to make some pristine backups just if someone could explain the right way to rip dvd9s

Thank you

[jman98]

You question is fair, but your goal may not be realistic. My experience is that DVD players that pause on DL media at the layer break will always do so, even if you keep the original layer break. In fact, I have a DVD player that even pauses at the layer break on commercial media. I just learned to live with it.

Yes, if you rip to ISO it should preserve the original layer break. You don't have to keep the MDS file, but ImgBurn prefers to use it. Why? I don't know. But it will burn ISOs without it.

[redwudz]

I'm guessing that when you ripped the disc, something changed or ImgBurn should have chosen a layer break automatically. Deleting any part of the DVD when ripping might cause this, or it may just be the structure of that DVD. There is no problem choosing a layer break with ImgBurn, just pick the one recommended by ImgBurn, or pick a second choice. ImgBurn is very flexible and I doubt it will lead you astray. You would only get a visible delay if you put it in the middle of a action sequence.

Nero sometimes makes a real mess of the layer break location, but ImgBurn is one of the best programs for doing it right. If you really want to use a ISO, then it should preserve the layer break. I'm assuming it's in the right position in the first place for your DL disc.

If you are using ANYDVD, then just 'Rip to Image'. ImgBurn will tell you if you try to use the wrong part of a ISO file to burn.

EDIT: And I assume you know the DL discs read from inside to outside on the first layer, then the read head has to got back to the inside to start the second layer. That's the delay you see.

[frieday]

Well thank you for the replies, I only noticed the pause on backups that I burned... never on any commercial dvds...

I think because I was using Nero...

So AnyDvd will keep the original layer break if i 'rip to image'
then I should just be able to double click the iso open up imgburn and let it do its thing?

To ask an unrelated question about AnyDvd, when I first started using it about 2 months ago, It would take about 20 mins to rip a dvd... now it takes about an hour... and Im just wondering because my computer is clean no viruses or any nasty spyware adware etc. to slow it down and I also removed daemon tools sptd driver thinking that could be causing it...

Perhaps someone might have had a similar problem with slow ripping speeds and btw ive tested other ripping tools as well (dvddecrpter) and still takes an hour... so a bit confused as to what could be the problem...

[frieday]

I know I already asked quite a bit LOL

but will AnyDvd create a mds file like dvddecrypter

wondering since imgburn prefers you to burn using the .mds

Thanks so much to anyone who can help me with my questions I appreciate you folks taking the time to respond, very grateful cuz I know im getting correct information from you all

[guns1inger]

All AnyDVD does is sit between the disc and your applications, and removes copy protection on the fly. So if you have AnyDVD running in the background, you can use Imgburn to create an ISO and MDS of the disc on your HDD, then use Imgburn to write these to a new disc, with layerbreak in place.

AnyDVD doesn't do any actual ripping or copying

[KTH]

AnyDVD will not create a mds when ripping to a image, but will create a .dvd file. You can select this .dvd file in Imgburn as you would a mds file and Imgburn will burn the disk properly.

[frieday]

OK understand a bit more clearly now....

I will try imgburn to create the iso and mds and see if it rips it any faster than AnyDvd or dvddecrpyter has for me in the past...

thank you all for your replies and please if anyone else has any other suggestions or ways that you rip lemme know

[guns1inger]

You will still have to have AnyDVD running in the background, as Imgburn cannot remove copy protection

[frieday]

yes I know about anydvd for decrypting in the background ...

I put the read speed on img burn to rip the iso to max for both audio and video speed... is that cool?

and also I double clicked and opened the mds file to burn the disc not the iso cuz I think I remembered reading somewhere thats the proper way to do it.

Notice as well that you can save the rip as a .img too probably stick with the .iso though... does it really matter? wondering if .img produces the .mds file as well... thank you I think Im doing everything right but if someone can give me a little clarification on these tiny details cuz wanna make sure im doing it like a seasoned pro would

[lordsmurf]

Do ISO + MDS ..
in ImgBurn + AnyDVD running in background
or in DVD Decrypter

Burn with ImgBurn.

It's that easy.

All these other things you're doing are pointless (img files, etc). Stop over-thinking it. It's not that complicated.