Getting new pc have ?'s

[newworldman]

Well I have been reading a bunch lately here and other forums. Still have a few questions. I plan on using my new PC for burning & playing HD DVD's a little of game playing but mostly using it with my Cam/Cad software. I have a link for the one I am looking at.

(1.) What is the benefit of more GHZ? (The one listed is a 2.5 GHZ is this enough?)

(2.) Do I need a bigger power supply then 400 watt's?

(3.) I don't like fan noise but have read that water cooled PC's still have fans ,is this true?

(4.) Is it important to have a case with extra fans & a temperature gauge?

(5.) What operating software would you recommend right now for my usage XP, Vista, Windows 7?

(6.) Do they make a video capture card that has HDMI input and will record from a satellite receiver?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270370474108&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Thanks

[edDV]

1. More is better*. Enough for what? List all your software.

2. Depends what is in the system

3. Need to dissipate heat somehow.

4. see #2

5. What does your CAD software want? Check other software.

6. No because of HDCP. Maybe analog component capture will work.

eBay link didn't work.

* Benefits are greater probability of media playback and less waiting for processing. Also faster game play.

[Noahtuck]

(3.) I don't like fan noise but have read that water cooled PC's still have fans ,is this true?

Yes, because they usually have some type of radiator and you have 1 or 2 fans on the radiator (just like a car) to push cooler air over/through the radiator.

And then there is the water pump, the water does not move by magic, so you will have some slight noise there also.

There might be very expensive watercooling systems that do not use any fans, i don't know as i have never really looked that closely at all the types they make.

Spend money on expensive high quality large ball bearing fans & you can cut the noise to almost nothing!!

eBay link didn't work.

Thats because for some reason he removved the TT from HTTP and replaced them with XX, HXXP:

But the item has been removed from ebay so it really does not matter.....

[newworldman]

1. More is better*. Enough for what? List all your software. (MasterCam,SolidWorks,DVD coping software)


2. Depends what is in the system (Link is fixed)

3. Need to dissipate heat somehow. (Would a none water cooled system be ok for my setup?)

4. see #2

5. What does your CAD software want? Check other software. (It can use either XP or Vista)

6. No because of HDCP. Maybe analog component capture will work.

eBay link didn't work.

* Benefits are greater probability of media playback and less waiting for processing. Also faster game play.

[Noahtuck]

1. More is better*. Enough for what? List all your software. (MasterCam,SolidWorks,DVD coping software)


2. Depends what is in the system (Link is fixed)

3. Need to dissipate heat somehow. (Would a none water cooled system be ok for my setup?)

4. see #2

5. What does your CAD software want? Check other software. (It can use either XP or Vista)

6. No because of HDCP. Maybe analog component capture will work.

eBay link didn't work.

* Benefits are greater probability of media playback and less waiting for processing. Also faster game play.

I love it when someone quote's another post but adds nothing to it 8)

[ocgw]

1. More is better*. Enough for what? List all your software. (MasterCam,SolidWorks,DVD coping software)


2. Depends what is in the system (Link is fixed)

3. Need to dissipate heat somehow. (Would a none water cooled system be ok for my setup?)

4. see #2

5. What does your CAD software want? Check other software. (It can use either XP or Vista)

6. No because of HDCP. Maybe analog component capture will work.

eBay link didn't work.

* Benefits are greater probability of media playback and less waiting for processing. Also faster game play.

I love it when someone quote's another post but adds nothing to it 8)

ocgw

peace

[yoda313]

Maybe analog component capture will work.

Yes. Check out the hauppauge hd pvr 1212. This does component input and 5.1 via fiber optic input.

As far as the ghz is it dual core or quad core? You will pay more for quad core but have more power obviously.

If you are buying a new pc you might want to wait a month or so or whenever Windows 7 actually comes out. Right now you can get a new pc with a free win 7 upgrade but if you can wait a little while you can get one iwth win 7 already loaded.

[newworldman]

1. More is better*. Enough for what? List all your software. (MasterCam,SolidWorks,DVD coping software)


2. Depends what is in the system (Link is fixed)

3. Need to dissipate heat somehow. (Would a none water cooled system be ok for my setup?)

4. see #2

5. What does your CAD software want? Check other software. (It can use either XP or Vista)

6. No because of HDCP. Maybe analog component capture will work.

eBay link didn't work.

* Benefits are greater probability of media playback and less waiting for processing. Also faster game play.

I love it when someone quote's another post but adds nothing to it 8)

ocgw

peace

Sorry just put it in the quote with ()

Enough for what? List all your software. (MasterCam,SolidWorks,DVD coping software)

2. Depends what is in the system (Link is fixed)

5. What does your CAD software want? Check other software. (It can use either XP or Vista)

3. Need to dissipate heat somehow. (Would a none water cooled system be ok for my setup?)

[edDV]

What is your reason for upgrade from your current P4? Is it CAD or game performance?

I understand your P4 is probably struggling with HD video.

Your eBay linked system looks weak.

- Onboard video chip (undefined). This probably has limited Open-GL support for CAD and will be weak for games.

- "Intel Pentium Dual core E5200 (2.5GHz x2)" one choice of many. Speed mostly tracks price.

I would say your requirements suggest a dedicated high performance display card. What is your budget?

The system described is CPU heavy and graphics weak given the low $389 price. I'd also be concerned about support from this source.

[edDV]

Solidworks wants NVidia Quadro or ATI FireGL display cards

[newworldman]

What is your reason for upgrade from your current P4? Is it CAD or game performance?

I understand your P4 is probably struggling with HD video.

Your eBay linked system looks weak.

- Onboard video chip (undefined). This probably has limited Open-GL support for CAD and will be weak for games.

- "Intel Pentium Dual core E5200 (2.5GHz x2)" one choice of many. Speed mostly tracks price.

I would say your requirements suggest a dedicated high performance display card. What is your budget?

The system described is CPU heavy and graphics weak given the low $389 price. I'd also be concerned about support from this source.

I would say mostly Cad performance. Also the HD video and a DVD Blu-Ray burner is needed. My P4 is outdated. My Budget is about $1000. I have been told these guys have good support and have a really good price. Also want to be able to get HD video to the PC some how maybe the 1212 device I have been reading about. Here is a better PC i found what video card should I upgrade to? It has a drop down list.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=400042146228&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

[edDV]

That PC has more CPU but still motherboard graphics. For CAD the display card would likely to eat half your budget. You need to determine your graphics needs first then spend the rest on the computer. Don't forget the monitor. Talk this over with your teacher/professor.

http://www.solidworks.com/sw/videocardtesting.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_Quadro
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATI_FireGL
http://www.amd.com/us/products/workstation/graphics/ati-firegl-3d/Pages/ati-firegl-3d.aspx
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/quadrofx-firepro.html

[ocgw]

Browse thru newegg.com's offerings

here is 1 for $500USD as an example

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227160

quad for $550USD

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229110

They have quads w/ powerful gaming cards for under $700USD

ocgw

peace

[newworldman]

That PC has more CPU but still motherboard graphics. For CAD the display card would likely to eat half your budget. You need to determine your graphics needs first then spend the rest on the computer. Don't forget the monitor. Talk this over with your teacher/professor.

http://www.solidworks.com/sw/videocardtesting.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_Quadro
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATI_FireGL
http://www.amd.com/us/products/workstation/graphics/ati-firegl-3d/Pages/ati-firegl-3d.aspx
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/quadrofx-firepro.html

Found a few of the cards you are talking about. Will these work? They aren't the newest or most mb. I will only be using Solid Works to look at files that will go to MasterCam. MasterCam will be my main usage. drawing 2D stuff and some solids & surfaces. I don't think I will ever get into the big solid stuff. I can always add these graphic cards later right?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nvidia-Quadro-FX3450-256mb-DVI-Video-Card_W0QQitemZ370222487087QQc...d=p3286.c0.m14

http://cgi.ebay.com/HP-ATI-FireGL-V7200-256MB-PCI-e-x16-Dual-DVI-Video-Card_W0QQitemZ2...d=p3286.c0.m14