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  1. Member Epicurus8a's Avatar
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    Panasonic has officially submitted a proposal for 3D implementation on the Blu-ray format. Their submission is based on the system which was first shown during CEATEC earlier this year, and requires the use of special glasses which convert two separate 1080i60 video streams into one 1080p24 3D image.

    http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=2104

    http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/15237-Panasonic-proposes-3D-Blu-ray-Disc-standard.html
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    HERE WE GO AGAIN.....
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  3. Originally Posted by Marvingj
    HERE WE GO AGAIN.....
    Tell me about it,ever since the 1950's the industry has been trying to sell us 3D.
    http://www.sensio.tv/en/3d/3d_history/default.3d
    Let's not forget Captain EO which was in 3D,apparantly Disney forgot it.
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    Originally Posted by Marvingj
    HERE WE GO AGAIN.....
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    So does it require new players and/or tvs? If so then this will never take off. Its taken bluray this long to be "established" and its still a niche market right now. 3d will just add to the confusion if "special" players and tvs are required.
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    Originally Posted by yoda313
    So does it require new players and/or tvs? If so then this will never take off. Its taken bluray this long to be "established" and its still a niche market right now. 3d will just add to the confusion if "special" players and tvs are required.
    I would assume it would be with current blu-ray players and tvs. There are a couple of blu-ray titles available that are 3D like journey to the centre of the earth and the polar express.

    But this principle could easily have been applied to any other format, DVD, VHS etc...
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    Originally Posted by yoda313
    So does it require new players and/or tvs? If so then this will never take off. Its taken bluray this long to be "established" and its still a niche market right now. 3d will just add to the confusion if "special" players and tvs are required.
    From what I've read, it's a new technique to produce 3D discs that are completely compatible with standard Blu-Ray players. To enjoy 3D, just buy a new HDMI cable and some glasses.

    http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/11/panasonic-propo.html
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  8. I think they need to work on manufacturing costs of players and media before they introduce 3D.
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    Originally Posted by MOVIEGEEK
    I think they need to work on manufacturing costs of players and media before they introduce 3D.
    At the current prices, I do not intend to buy any Blu-Ray products. My decision could change very quickly if the 3D format is approved. Others will probably reconsider too.
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    Originally Posted by MOVIEGEEK
    My decision could change very quickly if the 3D format is approved..
    Just think....HD 3D porn
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  11. Sounds Like a very good idea. All I have to do is:
    1. Buy a new tv. (old one is only 720P)
    2. Buy a blue-ray player. (I need another old player collecting dust)
    3. Buy expensive Blue-ray movies.
    4. Buy 3-D glasses for everyone watching the movie.
    5. 15 - 20 minutes later get dizzy feel sick the rest of the night.
    6. Never use them again so I can add them to my junk pile.
    On second thought I think I'll pass.
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  12. Originally Posted by yoda313
    So does it require new players and/or tvs? If so then this will never take off. Its taken bluray this long to be "established" and its still a niche market right now. 3d will just add to the confusion if "special" players and tvs are required.
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    3D-ready (requires 3D glasses and IR emitter, and a PC)

    http://www.crutchfield.com/S-Z5sbYQTecLb/p_690L65A90/Mitsubishi-L65-A90.html
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    I saw some time ago a 3D-ready demo screen from Sharp.

    If you don't have the glasses, you see the picture as usual. When you wear the glasses, you see the picture like watching a ViewMaster (remember those? ).

    I Also have a Geforce 2 based VGA card from Asus (Asus Deluxe 7700), dating back in 2001, that had those same glasses, so no, it is not a new idea technically.

    What's really new here, is the idea to provide that feature as extra (if I understand correct). If they don't charge extra for that, then I welcome it. If they charge extra, well, I won't buy that "enhanced" version!

    Oh, AFAIK, you don't need HD to do the trick: The demo I saw, was on a simply DVD-R and encoded to mpeg 2 at 720X480!
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    I think the 24 fps would lead to people getting that sick feeling..best bet would be to go from 120hz to 60..that should do the trick.
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    24fps multiplied to 60, 120 or more, using flags, offsets, etc.

    The video encodes like interlacing, but the lines are not in offset mode between them, so it looks like progressive.

    Those glasses detect the even and the odd lines, made a delay and that creates the illusion.

    That is what they told me. The extra "3D" info, doesn't need to be present all the time to the stream, one simply key frame each second, can determine the offset between this new kind of "fields".
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