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    Hi

    I read that some of the members here uses spray fixative to coat their DVDs which were printed with inkjet.

    Recently, I purchased a can of Envirotex Spray Clear Sealer or Finish (High Gloss). I didn't do any research or consider much before I grabbed a can and purchased this from our local store.

    1) I wonder if I can use this to spray on DVD surface with inkjet dye print to prevent the ink from runs or smudges or to waterproof the print.

    2) I think this spray is lacquer based with harzardous contents. Would there be any harzardous or danger when we played our DVD sprayed with such coat on DVD player for sometime since the disc will be rather warmed/hot?

    3) If I didn't finish the spray and decide that I no longer want to have it laying around in the house, how to dispose this can properly?

    I am sorry that ask such question as my knowledge on such products is quite limited. At home, we hardly use any of these spray, not even hairspray. The only spray that we used and laying in the house is an insectide spray.

    At home, when I saw the harzardous warning on the label (the use, contents, flammable, cancerous causing and how to store it ...), I am a bit uncertain. Appreciate if anyone here can help advice.

    About the product:
    There is not much information on the product from the manufacturer website other than what is written on the can.

    Envirotex Clear Sealer or Finish (High Gloss) for paper, wood, stone, metal, most fabrics and plastics. A quick drying durable clear coating for use as a sealer or finish. An excellent sealer for prints. May be used under EnviroTex Polymer Coatings or as a finish coat.

    Harzardous contents: Xylene (CAS #1330-20-7), Propylene Glycol Methyl Ether Acetate (CAS #106-65-6), Acetone (CAS #67-64-1), Hydrocarbon Propellant (CAS #68476-86-8 )

    http://www.eti-usa.com/MSDS/MSDS%20PDF/Aerosols/04013_112005.pdf
    http://www.eti-usa.com/consum/envtex/envlite.htm



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    Evirotex has been around a while. I wouldn't use it on DVDs as it is normally used in a thick coat and that may cause balance problems with DVDs. It's most commonly used as a tough furniture finish.

    If you want something safer 'Off the shelf', go to a art store and see what they recommend that may be a bit kinder to a plastic surface and go on a bit thinner. And may be a bit less toxic.

    With most any spray on finishes, you should use them in a well ventilated area. When completely dry, most that are safe for DVD labels should be completely stable even when heated in a DVD player.

    To dispose of most aerosol cans in your trash, you will have to puncture them to release the propellant before they will accept them. But many areas have a 'household hazardous waste' disposal day once a month where you can bring in the materials and they will dispose of them for free, or often recycle them, as in the case of house paint.

    Check with your local environmental health department or your trash disposal company and they may be able to tell you about disposal options.

    The MSDS you linked to should tell you the hazards. If you want to know the dangers of any product, ask for a MSDS. (Material Safety Data Sheet). Any seller is required to supply that by law in the US. Though many don't seem to know that. It really panics the clerks if you demand one and you quote the law. They can get them by fax in a few minutes.

    I'm sure other members can suggest better spray sealers for DVD inkjet printed labels.

    And welcome to our forums.
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    I stopped all coating of DVD tops when I actually saw one heat up enough to stick to the top spindle (bearing, etc.) of a DVD Player.
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    I never did get why people would want to waste their time spraying clear coat on a printed dvdr anyway's
    Get too much on, not even, runs onto the play side, ect.
    Start over

    Back when people first started talking about it, i licked my finger and rubbed the crap out of a dvdr i had printed with my epson trying to get it to smear, smudge, ect. and it did nothing..... how wet do people plan on getting their dvd's anyways

    And if they are gonna go through THAT much abuse you feel the need to protect the printed side.... i'd be MUCH more worried about the read side

    I have dvdr's i printed with my epson that are at least two years old and they look as good as the day i printed them 8)
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    This can damage both players and discs. Don't use it.
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  6. Have seen this mentioned many times.

    What I have NOT seen is people talking about doing this who have done it to disks a year or two ago. No long-term results.

    I would think these coatings would tend to flake off over time, small thin flakes inside of a hot DVD player just doesn't sound like a good idea.

    I think that protection is less the idea than acheiving a glossy finish, flashy looks being more important to many than reliability.
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    I used to try the spray once a few years ago, but never like the output. Now, TY came up with a new technology to produce WaterShield DVD-R. This new type of printable surface looks fantastic and I never use anything else. Give it a try and you'll know what I mean...

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    Originally Posted by Nelson37
    What I have NOT seen is people talking about doing this who have done it to disks a year or two ago. No long-term results.
    Me. Three-year-old discs. It powders off. I have a set of discs from somebody, and this is what happens.
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    I used to (over a year ago) use printable verbatims and then do a light spray of clear coat. I've never had a problem, YET. I no longer use printable media due to bored with the look and lazy...Sharpies all the way no for me....
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    Can anyone suggest a good printer that can print to WaterShield DVD-R discs that vcdlover talked about?
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    Originally Posted by jman98
    Can anyone suggest a good printer that can print to WaterShield DVD-R discs that vcdlover talked about?

    I have Epson R300 and the WaterShield blank also works on R200 as well. I also used to use Epson ink, but no more. The third party ink works very well and I can't tell the difference. I've heard that Epson newer models will not accept gray market ink cartridges.

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    Hi everyone thanks for the reply.

    I tried the spray on DVD, inkjet paper, photo outside the house and the smell of the spray sent me fleeding. I couldn't hold my breathe for long while spraying so despite wearing a facial mask, I could still inhale the vapor of the chemical. Probably because I had never use any of such spray before so I am more sensitive to the smell being not used to it. Didn't like the idea that I had inhaled so much toxic. And I couldn't find a place that is less windy and dust free environment at the moment. So I guessed I may have to give up the idea of spraying.

    However if anyone has any suggestion of any inkjet fixative that which is less toxic or doesn't smell this strong which I could preserve the inkjet print on dvd, photo or paper, I am willing to give it another try again. But I will be looking for one that does not give a grainy/sandpapery feel texture on the paper which the current spray mentioned above does. Wonder those who does spray, how did you get pass the smell. And how did you avoid inhaling the mist or vapor release from the spray.
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    I would wear a mask for something like that, wearing crappy clothes, and do it outside (or in a garage) on a day with no wind.
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    lin - Perhaps you should re-read vcdlover's post, which you seem to have ignored. He does not anywhere mention using spray on those WaterShield discs.
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    Originally Posted by jman98
    lin - Perhaps you should re-read vcdlover's post, which you seem to have ignored. He does not anywhere mention using spray on those WaterShield discs.
    I had read vcdlover's post on the WaterShield Disc. I have not get any of these disc yet. I will be looking into such Disc in the future for any of the disc that I wish to label with inkjet. As this would minimize the need of spraying.

    For the moment, I was trying out the spray on the those non-watershield printable dvd disc which I had and printed.

    Apart from spraying on DVD disc, I am also exploring some kind of fixative for inkjet printing, photos which I had printed in the past which I wish to keep and for which could not reprint them again as I lost the source after a hard disk crashed or natural causes or I don't have the source with me anymore.
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    And redwudz, thanks for the advice on the disposal.
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