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Can you convert HD content like from a DVR/HDD-type device from satellite TV (like Dish or Direct TV) to SD, and then record that to a SD DVD with a standard DVD recorder?
I'm trying to figure out how to archive content from HD, even if it has to be converted to SD first.
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Edit: Sorry, but I misread the question.
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These devices nearly all use a Linux-type operating system and hard drive formatting, PLUS the files on the drives are encrypted. Really not worth the trouble to dry to get the files off the drive, even if you could do anything with them. Most people just buy a DVD recorder and record them off the DVR.
Dish allows you to connect an external hard drive, (for a fee), and add more storage, but it's still not possible to get the files off it. -
As long as your DVR/HDD has a S or Composite output it should record just fine to any DVD recorder. Of course it will not be in HD, and will be recorded in "squished 4X3" format, you will need to "stretch" it back to fit in a 16x9 screen, or else just setup your DVD recorder to only record the 4x3 cropped picture, for 4x3 screen uses. This is baring any copy once restrictions on the source material, witch a Sima go-dvd device could easily remove.
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if you have a series 2 tivo with tivo-to-go wifi adapter or the lan connection you can simply stream the files off.
You can use directshowdump (something like that can't remember at the momemnt) to strip the .tivo header and get a clean mpg. If you record at medium you get a fully useable halfd1 mpg file that is ready for authoring. A max quality recording is svcd 480x480 ntsc and would require a reencode. The mid level is decent enough for most purposes in my opinion (depending on your signal strength of course).
Unfortunately i believe the high def series 3 tivos still don't have the to-go file transfer system enabled. That would require real time dubbing and a removal device to properly record it. Same goes with most other "in house" cable/sat dvr's I believe.Donatello - The Shredder? Michelangelo - Maybe all that hardware is for making coleslaw? -
So what equipment do I need to get from Direct or Dish, or do I need to buy my own device?
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OK, but what if I get the HD package from 1 of the satellite companies? Can I still record off the DVR then?Originally Posted by CDan
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Assuming you have transferred the digital stream to a PC from "a DVR/HDD-type device from satellite TV" if you have one that supports transfer of captures via a USB port or something, the following DVB-T links may be relevant to conversions :-
https://forum.videohelp.com/topic337231.html
https://forum.videohelp.com/topic340329.html
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best as i can tell u want to burn recorded shows... the method i use is videoredoplus (edit the show to what i want), & dvd flick to convert & burn with imgburn, its slow as all get out but its the cheepest & easiest method that i have found..... if u have the cash videoredoplus, convertxtodvd, & shrink (if u need any compression at all) & nero... paid versions (no freeware cept shrink) cut the time in half maybe a little more... there are probably better ways to do this but it works for me (this process works for sd sigs, hd sigs may need to be split because of size)... another method is to get a hauppauge pvr 150 or similar card that records to mpg2 & use ur pc as a dumb dvcr... hope this helps
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Either Dish or DirecTV will mean you have to get a DVD recorder and record the shows off DVR, or off live TV.Originally Posted by LT9000
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OK let's say I get Direct TV HD with an HD DVR. Could I then record an SD show to the DVR (even though it's an HD capable DRV) and then run a line out to an SD DVD recorder and archive it?
How about watching a HD program while recording the same show at the same time (dual tuner) in SD to the DVR so as to output it to the DVD recorder later. Is that possible?
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If you are a member of the Yahoo groups that support the hard drive ripping of old Dishnetwork machines like the 71/7200 it's actually pretty easy to pull the HDD and rip the contents. A couple programs run in a DOS window with the drive attached to your computer, ("dishripe.exe -ts2ps -r" is the command for the 2 programs dishrip and ts2ps) will rip the content to the computer hard drive (a nice feature is that this will also give a text file giving you the air date, running time, and a brief description of the show). Then you use a couple other programs to patch the headers (dishpatch was one) so TMPGEnc 1.6 (not the newer 3.xx) can be used to author the disc after commercials are removed with Videoredo Plus (the only program that suports this kind of editing since [I believe] the program creator also has a Dishplayer 71/7200). You will immediately note the vastly smaller file sizes compared to recording using a DVD recorder as well, you retain the dolby surround audio track which you can't do with a regular recording. Not really that much more time consuming than producing a disc from a DVD recorder I've found...
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Oh, as a PS, I don't even bother with this method for shows/movies I typically just want to watch once and erase the disc as the mpegs can be burned as data to a DVD-+RW and watched with a Philips or other DVD player that supports reading of raw mpegs. Now THAT is a time savings...
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You can record either HD or SD content to a DVDR, the HD content is down-converted to 480i and output from the s-video connector. Please consult the manuals for the DTV or Dish units, you can get them online. Either one will DVR 2 HD OR SD programs at once, but you'll have to be watching one of them.Originally Posted by LT9000
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Thanks for the input. Let me see if I understand.
Can anyone answer these questions directly:
1. Can you record a HD show to a DVR and then record it (either in SD or HD) to a DVD? (For example coming out S-video to a DVD recorder.)
2. Can you record an SD show to a DVR and then record it to a DVD?
3. Can you record the same show in HD and in SD at the same time to a DVR? (So as to watch it in HD and then have it in SD if you want to archive it.) -
1. Yes, HD on DVR to SD on DVD via S-Video.
2. Yes, SD on DVR to SD on DVD via S-Video.
3. Don't think any unit rec. in both HD and SD simultaneously... maybe a dual tuner unit? -
OK, I think that mostly solves it for me. (I'm assuming this goes for DirectTV and dish.) I guess archiving HD content in HD is not so easy, but at least I can keep it in SD for now.Originally Posted by wabjxo
"Don't think any unit rec. in both HD and SD simultaneously..."
If your answer to # 1 is correct it should not matter since I could just take the HD content recorded on DVR out via S- video to an SD DVD recorder. -
Thanks for the input on these options. It is interesting if some what complex. Would a customer new to Dish be out of luck though on the right equipment for this?Originally Posted by oldfart13
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Yeah probably. The old Dishplayers aren't really supported anymore. To this end though you can still record on them but not play back on them. I have had one for years but seldom use it for anything but direct view. In it's time it was a great device though finicky at times and not well supported until the last few years before the HD PVRs took off. I don't think they even care that you can upgrade them with bigger hard drives. The files are readily available to do this and there has never been one peep out of Dishnetwork about this. I don't think many of them are in use anymore but there are enough users still that support for them is available. I think some of the later models can also be used this way but since I don't have one, I can't tell you for sure. You'll have to check the Yahoo groups for that...
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LT9000
As you asked for direct answers
To your original post and question
YES
To your questions 1, 2, 3 in a later post
! --- YES
2 --- YES
3 --- YES
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You can use any output available
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