Television -- OLEVIA 27" 2 Series LCD HDTV (req'ing info)

[vhelp]

Afternoon everyone.

I'm doing some research on the OLEVIA 27" 2 Series LCD HDTV and am
considering purchasing it. I've seen it in action on several occasions
but I have not seen it (quality'wise) comparitable to other HDTV sets.
And the reason for this is because they have it connected via Composite
Coax cable, so there seems to some minor flaws during viewing.. ie, snow;
or noise; etc, though not serious. I guess I'm looking for verification
that the quality would (or will) be similar to those HDTV sets that *are*
properly connected -- I do have an HDTV Receiver w/ Component capability.

** I wouldn't mind checking it out, connected to my pc.
** Also, curious to see how it plays my 16x9 MPEG encodes w/ my Apex AD-1500 player.
** And, by having such a tv set, I could finally verify that all my transfers
** of VHS; Laserdisc; and other captured sources, and processed to MPEG, would
** come out looking satisfactory or better, in widescreen presentation.

So far, this set seems to be the lowest priced HDTV at 27" inches, and
is selling (on sale now) for $429 at K-Mart.





- FEATURES -
OLEVIA 27" 2 Series LCD HDTV (227V)

27" LCD HDTV: Enhance your home with the stunning high-definition images and
lifelike colors of a 27" 2 Series TV with 1366 x 768 resolution. The sophisticated
charcoal finish will add style to any room.

Built-in HD tuner: Experience the breathtaking clarity of HDTV broadcasts with the
integrated ATSC tuner. Simply add an HD antenna and you’re ready to enjoy over-the-air
HD programs.

Widescreen: Watch movies in their natural cinematic format (16:9) without letterboxing
for the ultimate home theater experience. 3:2 pull-down with motion compensation
ensures a clear picture.

Compatibility: This TV is compatible with 1080i/720p/480p/480i digital programming.

PC-compatible: Just use the PC input to turn this big-screen TV into the ultimate
computer monitor.

Other features: Additional features include upgradable filmware via USB, user-friendly
OSD, full controls, Director's Image, linear and panaromic scaling, parental control,
closed captioning and sleep timer.


- SPECS -
Screen size: 27"
Display type: HDTV
Flat panel technology: LCD flat panel
Built-in tuner: NTSC/ATSC
Widescreen: Yes
Comb filter: 3-Line Digital
Maximum viewing angles: H:178 / V:178
Picture-in-picture: No
Resolution: 1366 x 768
Contrast ratio: 1600:1
Audio type: Stereo
Speakers: Yes (built-in)
Component video inputs: Yes
S-video inputs: Yes
# A/V inputs (composite): Yes
# RF inputs: yes
DVI (Digital Video Interface): No
HDMI inputs: Yes
PC compatible: Yes
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** Motion Adaptive Processing
** 3:2 pulldown
** True De-Interlacing


- Possible flaws/CONS, otherwise, PROS include -
CONS: Power light -- is always on, and very (blue) bright at night.
CONS: Audio -- no 5.1 suround sound, to my knowlege
PROS: You can connect it to your pc, I think.
PROS: Might play PAL sources, too (see here - kitty; 102606)

Thank you,
-vhelp 4183

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[edDV]

Price looks great!

General specs look very good:
Resolution: 1366 x 768
Contrast ratio: 1600:1

Not in spec are deinterlacing methods or IVTC capability. This will be an issue for 480i and 1080i inputs. Simple deinterlace may appear blurry on a progressive LCD.

Power light can be solved with a piece of tape.
Lack of 5.1 isn't an issue if you use a separate audio receiver-amp

Coax in is probably showing worst case cable or over the air NTSC.

Does it have a VGA port for a PC or does the PC have to use the HDMI input?

[redwudz]

Actually, that seems like a very good value for the price. The computer inputs seem to be VGA and HDMI. I don't see the stereo audio output as a big problem, as I use my surround sound amplifier for audio. It would be nice if it had an audio out from the tuner to a audio amplifier for 5.1 audio, but you can't have everything at a low price. The stereo is probably fine just for TV viewing. I couldn't find any objective reviews in a quick search, but you have probably already looked around. Check the OLEVIA site for exact specs from the source.

I wouldn't be surprised if SDTV looks a little worse than regular TV set, that's mostly the same with any HDTV.

Without any other bad info from members or internet sites, I would definitely consider it.

EDIT: Wait a minute. Where did you find that at Kmart for $429? I looked and the price I see is more like $799 Do you have a link?

[MJA]

its $499.99 circuitcity.com

[vhelp]

You guys are too quick to view. (I never finish what I'm typing, or
I forget to add something, or TJI (this just in)) Anyways.

Thanks for giving your comments. Much appreciated.

I've been continuing my research of this item, and I have found that some
members (at least one) noted an issue. I'm not sure what generation model
(or year) that member was describing about, but, that model was an older one,
so I don't think that they would apply to this current one that I'm researching
on, though I did have to do a more thourgh search to find the model *and* series
number..

LN 1 --> Series 2, [main]: http://www.syntaxbrillian.com/products/olevia_hdtvs.html
LN 2 --> Series 2, 227V [details]: http://www.olevia.com/jsp/products/detail.jsp?pid=227V
LN 3 --> Series 2, 227V [specs]: http://www.olevia.com/jsp/products/features.jsp?pid=227v

Watch out for these below, because they can be confusing, and you would
think that they (the one I'm interested in) is outdate, when they are
completely different TV types (below) ..

- HDTV TV sets: -
It seems that the Series 2 catagory has THREE models to choose from..
--> 227v 27", 232v 32" and 237v 37" inches

There's also a Series 4, with THREE models to choose from..
--> 427v 27", 432v 32", and 437v 37" inches

- LCT TV sets: -
Here's the Series 3, 5 and 7, (LCD TV's) on the main page..
--> 323v 23", 327v 27", 332H 32", 337H 37", 342i 42" inches
--> 527v 27", 532H 32", 537H 37", 542i 42", 565H 65" LCoS(tm) inches
--> 742i 42", 747i 47" inches


@ edDV, if you go to LN 3, you'll see more detailed specs, which indicates
that it supports Motion Adaptive Processing, and 3:2 pulldown that everyone
seems to love. Actually, I don't use it in my MPEG-2 encodes. Seems fine on my
pc monitor and my Apex AD-1500 player -- they play smoothly. It also incoporates
a True De-Interlacing feature.

The inputs are: RF Inputs-Standard definition TV, 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p, HDTV
I think that when feeding it to your PC, that the resolution become 1360 x 768.


@ redwudz, I was in K-Mart yesterday, (just browsing)
and they had them on sale for $429, regular price is $499 dollars.


Perhaps the model that *that* member was discribing was one of the ones here,
under their, More Models, which might be their older models:

LT20S; LT23HVX; LT26HVX; LT27HVX; LT32HVM; LT32HVE; LT37HVS; LT42HVi; LT20HVK;
LT26HVE; LT27HVS; LT30HV; LT30HVS; LT32HV; LT37HVE; DLT-2711M; DLT-3212M;
DLT-3712; LCT50HV;

-vhelp 4184

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[edDV]

# Motion Adaptive Processing
# 3:2 Pull Down
# 3D Comb Filter
# True De-Interlacing

All good news. But these are marketing rather than technical definitions.

Yes everything from NTSC to 1080i get scaled to 1366x768.

[vhelp]

I don't have HDMI, only VGA on my AGP motherboard.

Yes everything from NTSC to 1080i get scaled to 1366x768.

In passing, I've read where some members would point this out as a CON,
on account of its poor implementation's limitation..

--> 1080/2 = 540 pixle resolution, nowhere's near 768 pixels.

Course, that's just a rough estimate of poor image representation, if
that were a true implementation. Scalling would come into play here,
as you indicated, to fill the 768 pixels that the 227V offers.

So, the 480p or 720p is the only option.., and they are good options, fwiw.

You know, it is possible that the 1080p is better for the larger displays
than these smaller ones. I mean, this si more or less, an entry-level to
the world of HDTV experience

Not to sound like I'm repeating myself, but..

I would think (an assumption, mainly) that the 480p or 720p would be the
wise choice in viewing selection -- assuming that 720p would be selectable
in this model, per video source or what-have-you.

@ redwudz, I will take another trip down to K-Mart
and see if they *are* on sale for the $429, though I'm pretty sure they are
out of stuck on these, due to its low price. No need to wish me luck.

Thanks again, everyone for your comments.

-vhelp 4185

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[edDV]

The internal scaling chips will do a linear interpolation to 1366x768. That means that all pixels are filtered to the screen. There is no such thing as pixel by pixel mapping in most TV sets. The only possible exception is VGA 1366x768.

[vhelp]

Evening guys. Looks like I have to appoligies to you all. I had stated
the wrong model. I knew there was something wrong, when I remember seeing
a better picture in another store. Anyway. The one that I saw in K-Mart
was the 23" inch model, and that one is for an LT23HVX LCD TV model.
Sorry, I'm not really interested in this one, its not even an HDTV.

Well, anyway.. get some sleep, some of you, so you can open your presents
I'll see you all around, as usual.

Cheers,
-vhelp 4186

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[redwudz]

That's too bad. But the Circuit City price from MJA is still a great bargain, if it's the proper model.

And Merry Christmas.

[vhelp]

That's too bad. But the Circuit City price from MJA is still a great bargain, if it's the proper model.

It is. That's the one I was *really* talking about all along, but that I had
associated the wrong model with the model I saw at K-Mart, cause they look
so close in design, but the $429 got me stired up cause it was too good of a
price, you know.

But, in the end, what I really need, is a good pair of glassess, hehe

Thanks everyone, again.. Ho, ho, ho.

-vhelp 4187

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