DVR Pioneer 220S Woes

[Gritz]

My 220S records just fine from satellite or input from my home grown VHS tapes (and other VHS movies), and the resuliting DVD-Rs recorded in Video mode and finalized, play just fine in my my 3 computers with DVD software or in the 2 stand-alone dvd players I have. Making a COPY of the just created finalized DVD-R is a different story though. Using Nero ver 5.10.5.56 and UDF/ISO mode (or even using ISO or UDF mode alone) results in NO playback in the Pioneer 220S, but will work as normal in OTHER DVD standalone players. It seems the copy of the Pioneer DVR 220 S recorded DVD-R will not function back in the 220S for some reason. Since I have different DVD Players in different rooms I was hoping to make a copy for each room. Anyone have success in this area?

[akrako1]

As is the typical first question when someone is having a problem with pioneer dvd's....

Which mode did you initialize the disc in? If DVD-VR mode, that may well be your problem. While these may be readable on most computers, people have experiences problems ripping, or copying them. In the dvd recorder's menus you can set the recorder to automatically initialize new discs as a certain type (it think the 'initial setup' menu). Change this to DVD-Video and you will have no problems.

If you need to copy this disc, and it's a DVD-VR, I would suggest re-authoring with a computer based DVD authoring program.

[Gritz]

These are all DVD-Rs only and all are recorded in Video mode. You can't "Initialize" DVD-R discs, only DVD-RWs. It's greyed out for DVD-R. First disc recorded out of the recorder is alway fine, but any copies made of that disc will not play back in the Pioneer 220 S, but will play back on other DVD Players. Disc Navigation in the 220 S of the "bad disc" shows that all titles are there, but trying to play any of them (in the 220S) results in a quick "Search" action and then the text "Stop" appears on a black screen.

Although I see that others have had success with DVD-RWs, I have not! Finalized DVD-RWs in either Video mode or VR mode are another failure experience! None of my 3 computers (WinXP Pro) will recognize ANY of the burned DVD-RWs with Explorer (so that I can at least copy the Video_TS folder to my hard drive and burn) ... and my DVD CDROM is shown on the monitor as just a "CD DRIVE", and no files. They will play on all my computers with DVD software .... but in no way can I copy or edit the burned DVD-RWs. They will NOT play with Windows Media Player (Version 9). So the 220 S is a mixed bag for me, so far.

[wulf109]

If your version of Nero has DVD VIDEO template you use that,rip to your HD first. Some DVD players will refuse to play UDF/ISO burns. You should update your Nero to 6.0 or higher.
Also some DVD players will load and then go into stop mode when you load a Pioneer created DVD. Just press play and it should work.

[nelson133]

.Maybe your satellite provider has the flags set to allow only one copy.
Nyah Levi

[Gritz]

Wulf109 ..... yep, I thought that too - Just push play, but no go. And Nelson133 ..... most of what I'm trying to copy is converting VHS to DVD, so the input is not satellite. And the problem is copying the copy. I suspect the player knows that the second copy is not the one it burned .... Thanks for the replies guys ....

[tonemgub]

Instead of doing a disc-to-disc copy, create a data dvd and drag the video_ts folder from the original to it.

[anzimike]

Try dvddecryptor iso read then iso write, if this doesn't work try to reauthor on the computer. I have a feeling the problem is with nero settings. I gave up on nero 2 years ago. For burning I use decryptor occaisionally, TMPGEncDVDAuthor, and more recently Recordnow with good results.

[Gritz]

Can't do a drag the video_ts folder if the DVD-RW is not recognized by the computer .... which it isn't.

I tried and found that both DVDdecrypteor and Record now will make an "exact" copy of the DVD-RW that the 220 S made .... however ... the resulting copy is "exactly" like the original inasmuch as it works in the 220 S, but not in any stand alone DVD Player. It won't even work in my Phillips DVR 642 ... which plays almost anything. Must have something to do with "copy" limitations ??

[wulf109]

The disks I make on my 220 don't autoplay on some of my DVD players. To make them autoplay I rip to my HD,delete the ifo files except VTS_01_0.IFO and make new ifo files with DVDfab Lite. Burn that directory and they autoplay on all my DVD players. I think the key is you need to create new ifo files.

[lumis]

i always use dvd-rw's in my pioneer dvr-220.. once i've recorded what i want, i take it to the computer, extract the video to an mpeg and author with TDA.

if i'm recording under 2 hours & under, i use dvd-vr mode, over 2 hours, dvd-video.

if you attempt to record more than 2 hours, but less than 4 hours in dvd-vr mode you'll get a 544x480 mpeg, which is incompatible with most authoring software.. and may fail to play correctly on some dvd players

[Gritz]

OK, but the problem I'm having is that my computer will NOT recognize the finalized DVD-RW in VR mode at all!! Before inserting the -RW, Explorer shows my burner as a DVD-R drive .... after I insert the -RW that changes to a CD Drive with no (0) bytes. So I can't see the -RW at all. I have WinXP Pro .... but I must be missing some of the necessary codecs .... but which ones??

If someone can steer me to the patch I need I'll give that a try. Any and all replies are appreciated guys.

[lumis]

try isobuster, see if it can see the contents of the disc.

[Gritz]

Ok .... looks like my problem with not being able to see the disc is because I have not updated my WinXP OS. I had a bad experience trying to install on a laptop so I had shied away from installing on my desktop pc. So the following works for me when I want to save whatever is on a DVD-RW disc:

1. Use MPEG2VCR to edit, then extract the *.VRO file from the disc to my hard drive which results in a *.mpg file.

2. Reauthor the mpg file to DVD format (Video_TS) using TMPGenc.

3. Burn the result to DVD-R with Nero, or RecordNowMax.

The conclusion for me is that DVD-RW is pretty much useless for me for what I am trying to do .... (convert VHS to DVD), since if I pay attention hardly no editing is needed ... so I will just use DVD-R in the future. -RW would be useful though, to record TV shows that I want to watch later.

Thanks guys for all the replies ... I ALWAYS find the answers I need in this forum. No better resource .... and no doubt about it.

[The Stinger]

I bought one of these maybe a year ago, been using it alot, but now I misplaced the remote, that or the kids got a hold of it. Any idea how to finalize a disc without the remote? I notice there isn't a enter button or anything on the front panel. So if I lose the remote I am screwed? I can do navigate disc and disc history but there isn't anyway to arrow down or enter anything. Anyone have any idea?

[lumis]

I bought one of these maybe a year ago, been using it alot, but now I misplaced the remote, that or the kids got a hold of it. Any idea how to finalize a disc without the remote? I notice there isn't a enter button or anything on the front panel. So if I lose the remote I am screwed? I can do navigate disc and disc history but there isn't anyway to arrow down or enter anything. Anyone have any idea?

Yeah, you're pretty much screwed. But $32.25 will get you back up and running.

http://parts.pioneerelectronics.com/part.asp?productNum=VXX2928

I took a quick look around google, Pioneer appears to be offering it the cheapest, and you might as well get it from the manufacturer.

Sometimes you need to turn off the TV, sit down with your kids and hit them.