What is the preferred method for Rip a DVD ?

[Dj-DuDu]

Hi i did search the forum and look in the guides , But dont know which one is the best for me so if any one could recomend me to a good method to Rip Dvd and then convert it to Xvid .

[yoda313]

Use dvdfabdecrypter or ripit4me to rip the newer dvds.

Then you can use virtualdubmod or virtualdubmpeg2 to convert to xvid.

All the software mentioned above is freeware. There are plenty of guides to the left <-------------

There are one click solutions but some don't quite have the full range of control as doing the ripping and encoding seperately.

[daamon]

A friend of mine wanted to do pretty much the same thing, but just for segments from a DVD. However, the same principle applies - you just ignore the bit about choosing the desired segment.

The only difference for you is you'd need to rip the DVD to a single VOB file. Anyway, I hope these help - it shouldn't be too hard to figure out how to adapt it to your needs...

General Info:

A) Most commercial DVDs use an audio format called AC3 - this is basically a way of compressing audio from large files to much smaller files without any noticeable loss in quality. You'll probably need the AC3-ACM Decompressor to playback the AC3 audio that's going to be in your finished files. If you're not gonna use / want audio, then don't worry about this.

B) There's four main steps to the process you want to achieve:

1) Breaking the encryption (if any) on the DVD's which then allows...
2) ...(what's called) "ripping" the required video file to your hard drive (HDD).
3) You then need to isolate the segment you want...
4) ...and encode (convert) it to a usable file size but with enough quality to still be watchable.

Detailed Instructions:

Breaking encryption and ripping to HDD:

Pretty much all commercial DVDs are encrypted - if not, just drag and drop the VOB files from the disc to your HDD. However, for encrypted discs you're likely to need different software, depending on the encryption used.

Most DVDs can be decrypted and ripped using DVDDecrypter. If this doesn't work, use DVD Fab Decrypter - this latter one addresses the newer encryption methods on some DVDs.

DVDDecrypter can rip specific chapters or episodes from a disc - very handy.

DVD Fab Decrypter (the free version) will only rip the whole movie - a pain in the arse. You'll have to find where the clip is - i.e. in which VOB file. VOBs contain the video and audio files, as well as a few other bits and pieces, like subtitles etc.

Ripping:

Using DVDDecrypter v3.5.4.0:

1) Place DVD in your DVD rom drive - cancel any windows or disk playing software that pops up.
2) Launch DVDDecrypter. Set the source and destination.
3) Click: Mode -> IFO I. On the right side, there'll be two tabs: "Input" and "Stream Processing".
4) Click: Tools -> Settings... -> "IFO Mode" tab. Roughly in the middle, on the left in "Options", set "File Splitting" = "None".
5) Right click on the window in the "Input" tab with the "VTS_xx" entries in and "Expand All" - each VTS contains things like the main movie / episodes, trailers, intro clips, special features etc. The running times are a good guide here...
6) Select a PGC in a VTS that looks like it's what you want. You may need trial and error to get the right one.
7) A load of chapters for that PGC will now be displayed. Right click on these and "Select None".
8) Select (tick) the relevant chapter to be ripped. This is best got by playing the DVD beforehand and noting it down from the display. You may need trial and error to get the right one.
9) Select the "Stream Processing" tab.
10) If not ticked already, "Enable Stream Processing" (tick).
11) Untick any unwanted items like subtitles, directors commentary (usually the second audio) etc. Given what you're doing, you may only want the video. The less there is, the quicker it'll be to rip.
12) Make sure "Direct Stream Copy" is selected.
13) Click the big button "DVD > HDD" (symbols). Ripping will begin.

Using DVD Fab Decrypter v3.0.0.1:

1) Disc in drive, cancel any pop up applications and launch ripping tool.
2) Set source and target (some thing as destination, above).
3) For "Common Settings", click the icon in the top-right that looks like a cog. It's the one on the far left of the four. Under "DVD \ Protection" set "4 - Australia, etc."
4) Click "Start" button at bottom left. All files will be ripped. You'll have to preview them in your PC DVD player to find which VOB the clip that you want is in. Or you can preview them in VirtualDubMod - you'll figure out how from the next lot of info.

Isolating the segment and encrypting:

Download and install the following:

VirtualDubMod - has a batch function for more than one file to be handled rather than doing them seperately.
XviD Codec - filename XviD-1.1.0-30122005.exe from the download page linked to from VideoHelp.

1) Open VirtualDubMod.
2) Click: File -> Open video file... and select your required VOB file. The VOB file will be briefly processed.
3) Right click on each image in turn and select 50% - this makes them easier to view at the same time. This may not be required for subsequent VOB files.
4) Drag the slider (at the bottom) left and right to find the desired start point in the segment. The cursor arrow keys can be used to refine the start point.
5) Press "Home" to set the start point, and "End" to set the finish point. This will define the required segment within the loaded VOB file. For PAL DVDs (i.e. ones from Aus), there's 25 frames per second of video - there's a counter to show you which frame you're on.
6) Click: Video -> Full processing mode
7) Click: Video -> Compression. Scroll down the options to find and select the Xvid Codec. If there's more than one, select the one that displays a "FourCC Code" of "xvid" on the right of the window.
8) Click "Configure" (at the bottom right of the pop up). In the "Xvid Configuration" window, select a "Profile @ Level" of "Portable PAL". Set the "Target Quantizer" to 10.00 (you can type in the field).
9) Click OK twice to close both pop-ups. You should be back at the main VirtualDubMod window.
10) Click: File -> Save as... Choose a folder and file name. MAKE SURE you tick the "Don't run this job now" tick box - this will add it to the batch job list. Click "Save".
11) Repeat steps 2 to 10 for each VOB file to be processed. I don't know what the maximum number of entries for a batch job is. Also, steps 6 to 9 may not be required for subsequent VOB files, I'm not sure.
12) When done loading the batch job list, press F4 to bring up the batch job list and reorder, delete etc. as required before clicking "Start". This will (should) produce a load of AVI files in your chosen folder(s) that aren't too big and can then be loaded into PowerPoint.

Final notes:

1) If you want the filesizes to be smaller, you'll sacrifice quality. If you want better quality, the filesizes will be bigger - that's life and an inescapable fact of video.
2) You can adjust quality vs filesize by adjusting the "Target Quantizer" in step 8. Bigger number = lower quality = lower filesizes.
3) I chose the Xvid codec coz it gives good compression for decent quality and is quite quick to process.
4) A 10 second segment, encoded at 10.00 takes around 25 seconds (on my PC) and produces a filesize of 1.1Mb with fairly decent quality at full screen resolution. Results may differ with different segments.

[Baldrick]

Or rip the DVD to the HD with DVDFabDecrypter and convert to Xvid with AutoGK...

and this is should be in the dvd to avi forum. moving you.

[Dj-DuDu]

Thanks for all of your help PPL

[yoda313]

FYI you'll most likely need lamemp3 and install it into your virtualdub directory. That way you'll be able to compress to any quality level for mp3 sound.

[Dj-DuDu]

Hi , First thanks alot for your help dudes 8) , Now another few questions

1 ) i did rip a dvd using DvdDecrypter and convert it with VirtualDub now how do i change the audio when i convert it to Xvid with vdubmod to 2 channels from ac3 .

2 ) About the quality i do have a movie that i didant rip my self ( The Descent ) and its 1 Disc dvd rip , And his quality is great and realy looks good now i checked his info with gspot and it has lower resulution then my dvd rip ( Matrix ) now how do i get to the best combination in the xvid C.Panel to get good quality for example the movie i riped has 720x576 resulution and the other movie the one i didant rip my self has 608x256 resulution and it has better then my movie on the Tv and on pc screen so what do i need to set to get good quality . Now i know file size matter but for example the 2 movies one that i rip and the other i didant are about 700Mb each and my got out with suck quality ? ? WHY WHY

3 ) What about the ppl that release movies DVD rips with 2 Disc , How do i know when i need to do it with one disc and when do i do it 2 disc ? And how do they rip it exactly 700 MB each
now i know there is option that instruct to split the file in DVDDecrypter but how do they do both file exactly 700MB each how do they know it will be exactly 700 each and not one700 and the other 680 for example .

4 ) what happens if i rip the subtitle with the movie is the sub burn with the movie automaticly when i convert it with vdub mod to divx or i get seperate subtitle file ?

well alot of question i guess but i hope i get some answer that will help me and others that looking similar info ////

Thanks for any help

[mats.hogberg]

First, I assume the statement

i do have a movie that i didant rip my self ( The Descent ) and its 1 Disc dvd rip

means that you own the DVD version of Descent, and got help ripping it.
Second - There are many ways from DVD to AVI. No less than 48 guides (at last count) are to be found on this topic alone under CONVERT left. Which of these have you tried?
Generally, I recommend you use avi.net or autoGK to convert DVD to AVI. Properly configuring the XviD/DivX codecs "by hand" isn't exactly n00b friendly.

/Mats

[manono]

WHY WHY

Because you don't know what you're doing and you're doing everything wrong. As mats.hogberg suggests, use an easy app, such as AutoGK, until you actually learn something.

Don't people read guides and study up anymore, before coming to sites like this with their lame questions?

for example the movie i riped has 720x576 resulution

Give me a break.

Here's a good selection of guides. Read them all and choose one (I might recommend Rita's):

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=630688#post630688

Or take mats' advice and read some of the 48 guides to be found in the guides section at this site.

[Dj-DuDu]

well well . I think you have somthing stuck up in your ass with that attidude . Dont remeber i ask you somting there is alot of nice ppl here that help me without the ugly attidude like you have , So maby go visit somone that will try to remove that long thing in your ******* .

And then answer a question .

You probably a lame dude that think he know all , Some better then your ass help me alot without the ugly attidude so go **** your self BOY .

You are in breach of the forum rules and are being issued with a formal warning. Wash your mouth with soap and water.
/ Moderator mats.hogberg

[Bazarus]

2 ) About the quality i do have a movie that i didant rip my self ( The Descent ) and its 1 Disc dvd rip , And his quality is great and realy looks good now i checked his info with gspot and it has lower resulution then my dvd rip ( Matrix ) now how do i get to the best combination in the xvid C.Panel to get good quality for example the movie i riped has 720x576 resulution and the other movie the one i didant rip my self has 608x256 resulution and it has better then my movie on the Tv and on pc screen so what do i need to set to get good quality . Now i know file size matter but for example the 2 movies one that i rip and the other i didant are about 700Mb each and my got out with suck quality ? ? WHY WHY

I'm kinda new to this, but I did find out a little bit. Here we go:
1- in autogk I set predefined size for 1cd(700mb) and I encoded T3 with it and the quality was poor
2- in autogk I set predefined size for 1/6 dvdr(746mb) and I encoded the same movie and the quality was awsome
In bouth trys I set audio track on english ac3 6ch, no subtitles and in advanced settings video on auto and audio on original,
whats amazing about this is that resolution is only 528x224 pixels
I have no idea how to explain this

[Dj-DuDu]

Well Bazarus : Thats a realy good information worth trying , Cause according to what you said the only difference is 46Mb and you said the quality was awsome so maby those 46Mb do matter , Or maby not worth trying so thanks for the info .

Now let me tell you what i did well try alot of stuff with virtualdubmod after i riped the movie with DVD Decrypter : Gladiator riped to one cd and bad quality alot of test through vdumod i try other resulation settings for single pass and more but with autogk i encode the dvd by the default ac3 sound and the subtitle (Yep Hebrew) and encode it to 2cd's (1400MB) and watch it in my HTPC on 29inch sony and its got with beuty of quality .
So SIZE Does MATTER (SOMETIME )


Though i am hoping to learn the technique to resize the movie and get similar quality with the time . So Bazarus your info worth trying PEACE .


OOOO and for admin sorry i am making you hard time sometimes 8)

[Bazarus]

So SIZE Does MATTER (SOMETIME )

Those who say that doesn't are poorly equipped