Ripped DVD Video Looks Bad

[fateman]

I recently got MCE and have been ripping some DVDs onto hard drives to play directly with MCE, but some of them look pretty crappy when I play them back. The main ones I'm seeing this with is the Futurama ones - there are parts where the video looks like you can see the interlacing lines or like it has been reencoded horribly. I've tried both ripping with DVD Decrypter and with DVD Shrink (to strip out some audio streams). Could this have to do with my system, my DVD software or just the original DVDs themselves?

Thanks

[jimmalenko]

What software are you using for playback ?

[manono]

Hi-

If you're in a PAL country, then the PAL DVDs of Fururama are very bad, victimized by a lousy NTSC2PAL conversion. If you pause it and advance frame by frame during a motion sequence, then you'll see all the blends/ghosts/double images. Not much you can do except to buy the good NTSC DVDs of the series.

[fateman]

I've tried both the MCE DVD player (which I think is Cyberlink made) and Cyberlink's PowerDVD to playback the DVDs on both my MCE machine and another machine.

Manono - that's a good point, and that could be the problem, but I doubt Netflix (where I got the DVDs) rent out PAL DVDs in the USA. Although, what you describe sounds somewhat like what I'm seeing - some parts are blurry, others it seems like interlacing (horizontal lines) through the animation, and the one I watched last night looked like a couple small bits had been reencoded horribly (like some artifacts seen after reencoding using Shrink). At this point, since I enjoy the show so much, I feel like finding a good deal and just buying the DVDs, but before I do that I think I'll get the very first disc again and compare.

Any other ideas?

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[jtoolman2000]

You ripped a Netflix DVD?????

I feel like finding a good deal and just buying the DVDs, but before I do that I think I'll get the very first disc again and compare.

Maybe you should consider buying some movies and stop copying rental,,, then openly admiting it here. And you expect help????

[fateman]

I like to rip them to HD first to watch, but I don't keep them after I've gotten my enjoyment out of them - sorry if I've committed a mortal sin.

[jtoolman2000]

Well, seeing for how long you've been a memebr in this forum I would assume that you would know that it is illegal to rip DVD to watch later after you have returned the rental disc. As far as it being a mortal sin. That's in the eye onf the beholder. All you had to do was to leave out the Netflix reference and all would have been honkydory.

[manono]

Oh, not a PAL guy. You're lucky then you don't have to watch the PAL Futuramas. There's nothing really wrong with the NTSC R1 Futuramas, except maybe for hard telecining and interlaced encoding. Do you have a regular standalone DVD player to play them to an interlaced CRT TV set? Then they should look fine. As for playing them using PowerDVD, you might experiment with the deinterlacing choices and see if you can find one that looks better. In general, though, the software DVD players aren't so good.

[fateman]

That's exactly what I would think (software DVD players not so good), but I will mess with the deinterlacing choices and see what I can do...

Thanks for the help guys

[Seeker47]

know that it is illegal to rip DVD to watch later after you have returned the rental disc.

Don't want to initiate a big argument here, and I can't parse the fine legalities of this, BUT: assuming one's use is limited to a one-time viewing (no time or interest for more than that), and the copy is destroyed after viewing, how is this different from time-shifting the movie off of a cable broadcast ? You paid to see it, you saw it, it's gone -- end of story.

[Dv8ted2]

know that it is illegal to rip DVD to watch later after you have returned the rental disc.

Don't want to initiate a big argument here, and I can't parse the fine legalities of this, BUT: assuming one's use is limited to a one-time viewing (no time or interest for more than that), and the copy is destroyed after viewing, how is this different from time-shifting the movie off of a cable broadcast ? You paid to see it, you saw it, it's gone -- end of story.

With rental movies, you are not allowed to do time shifting. If you need more time, you rerent the movie. If you are going to do the illegal thing and copy it, do not actively and openly flaunt that you copy the movie. If Netflix were to find out, they would cancel his subscription, and possibly prosecute him. How do you know that there is not a Netflix employee that is a member here. It is not smart.

[sacajaweeda]

For all we know he is a Netflix employee.

[Dv8ted2]

For all we know he is a Netflix employee.

Then, he would be stupid, because that could get him fired.

[sacajaweeda]

But how would they know which of their employees to fire?

[Dv8ted2]

But how would they know which of their employees to fire?

good point

[Supreme2k]

For all we know he is a Netflix employee.

That doesn't matter. There is no "benefit" for working for Netflix which allows ripping inventory.

The main fallacy to that arguement is that if he is an employee (which doesn't matter), he could say so himself. I'd rather work with what he's given than unload a truck full of excuses for him(maybe he works for Warner Bros, etc.). There's "benefit of the doubt", then there's Fantasy Land.

[slimpickins]

hi, im in the uk, are u saying my pal futuramas are gona look crap cos when they converted them form ntsc to pal they did a crap job, has this hapend before with other shows, i have never thought about it but all my favourite shows are american ind would i be best of going for ntsc, i was under the impression that pal are better than ntsc cos ofthe line differences, il be gutted if i have to start buying films from accross the pond, just wanted to let u guys know, i bought the hyundai q321 and its great, only 600 for a 32" lcd, i really think its value for money, i watched one of the worst encoded disks i could find, a sg1 s1 disk, its an exact copy/ fully compressed with extras audio and adverts and has 4 eps, also it was compressed with a crappy 30 minute converter, still watchable, a bit of pixalation over the close ups at time but i can live with that, and oppostiely ive been backing everything up to hardrive with no compression waiting for a way to turn a 6 disk season into a 10 disk season with no compression, ill be gutted cos i love the 6 disk butterfly cases over the crappy 10disk generic ones anyday

[jimmalenko]

Surely there needs to be a full stop in amongst that somewhere

[Dv8ted2]

Surely there needs to be a full stop in amongst that somewhere

He probably does not understand the concept of a run-on sentence.

[slimpickins]

sorry guys, i just figured u guys would have masterd speed reading, the israeli language hebrew has no full stops,no punctiation and no grammer, jsut a run on sentance, same with chinese japanese, arabic and mandarin, some of theoldest languages in the world, its only recently we have addd full stops and punctuation, if u master speed reading u can take in about 2-3000 words a minute and it helps if u do run on sentances, hell, im not writing a book or a pullitzer here

[manono]

What a load of crap. This is an English language board. Write in proper English.