FAMILY GUY DVD's i wanna rip to 170-180MB

[stro_show]

k i hav FAMILY GUY DVD's i wanna rip.
but i want the quality to b nice like the quality u get wen u download series's off torrents.

EG. 170-180MB per EPISODE

i tried AVI.NET and i ripped XVID quality which is about 500MB per episode nd the quality isnt as great as the 170-180MB stuff i download. i just wanted to know the reason for that?

if u dont understand what im asking please tell me. and i'll rephrase wat i said, becoz i really want some help at this. please reply. thanks heaps

[jagabo]

Use a 2-pass encode with a lower bitrate. Or use a single pass constant quantizer encode with a higher quantizer value. Use a smaller frame size. Use AutoGK which will automatically adjust all those settings depending on the file size you ask for.

[Baldrick]

please use a more descriptive subject...click on edit on your post to change it.

what resolution/video frame size are you using? audio bitrate?
2-pass xvid?

and maybe try autogk?

[stro_show]

k the exact video quality i want. im taking this from a sample episode of futurama i have

VIDEO RESOlUTION
640x480 pixels

Audio
Bit Rate: 192KB

Video
25 frames/second
Data Rate 138kbps
Video Sample Rate 12bit
Video Compression Xvid

BTW i tried AutoGK. i downloaded the new 2.27 version. i cant even get it to rip. i click add job and press start. it says commencing indexing nd stuff. and it just does nothing for ages. until i cancel it then it goes ABORTED, completed in 27mins bla bla.

i dont kno whats wrong wit it

[KBeee]

Hmmmm...
Your audio bitraste is bigger than your video bitrate...
Your video must look Hellish

[manono]

Nah, he's getting the bitrate figure from Windows. I think you have to multiply by 8 to get the real figure. stro_show, get your info from GSpot, and not Windows.

[jimmalenko]

Nah, he's getting the bitrate figure from Windows. I think you have to multiply by 8 to get the real figure. stro_show, get your info from GSpot, and not Windows.

I was gonna say the same thing - the Video section lists the Byterate, not the bitrate.

[Trident5]

I would sacrafice audio for sake of video after all its FamilyGuy not Star Wars or Lord of the RIngs...Sound is not that big of a deal i would think, try going like 96 or even 64 on audio and your video well greatly improve

[stro_show]

okay guys i downloaded the gspot. and this is the description it gave me on the quality that i want from a futurama episode i downloaded. because the futurama episode is perfect sound/vid/size. i want the exact same rip that's why i used it's description

VIDEO
Codec: XviD
640x480 (1.33:1)(=4:3)
BitRate: 934kb/s
FPS: 25
Qf: 0.122 bits/pixel

AUDIO
Codec Name: ac3 Dolby laboratories
BitRate: 192kb/s (96/ch, stereo) CBR
Fs: 48000 HZ

this is INFORMATION FROM GSPOT on a particular vid file quality. how do i replicate this

[Trident5]

Try using CloneDVDMobile and choose the Generic divx settings, just started using it myself gives amazing results and dam its fast can do a 90 minute movie in under 30 minutes.

[celtic_druid]

If you are ripping from PAL DVD's then that is probably the cause of a lot of your problems since the source would have originally been NTSC.

One click type apps probably just aren't going to do the job properly. Although your Futurama example appears to be PAL. Still worth looking into learning AVISynth if you want decent quality 175MB rips.

From the description, CloneDVDMobile uses mencoder for encoding. So unless it also supports VfW encoding, it doesn't encode DivX. Only XviD or libavcodec.

[Trident5]

According to the program CloneDVDMobile there is an option in the list that says Generic Divx not Xvid

[celtic_druid]

Probably libavcodec's MPEG-4 encoder then. "-ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4".

It isn't "generic DivX" it is another MPEG-4 part 2 implimentation, like XviD, DivX, 3ivX, Nero Digital, etc. are.

[stro_show]

If you are ripping from PAL DVD's then that is probably the cause of a lot of your problems since the source would have originally been NTSC.

One click type apps probably just aren't going to do the job properly. Although your Futurama example appears to be PAL. Still worth looking into learning AVISynth if you want decent quality 175MB rips.

From the description, CloneDVDMobile uses mencoder for encoding. So unless it also supports VfW encoding, it doesn't encode DivX. Only XviD or libavcodec.

i am ripping from a PAL DVD, at the back it says PAL. so as you said a ONE CLICK RIP PROGRAM won't work if i want 175mb EPISODES.. i wonder how the person who ripped futurama ripped at that quality with the PAL DVD.

should i try CloneDVD, or won't it rip the quality i want it to? coz im not to sure wat you guys were talkin bout with the generic DIVX and stuff lol. sorry

thanks for all ya help so far

[stro_show]

bump
does anyone kno the answer

[jimmalenko]

I *still* think AutoGK is your best bet - make sure you configure the XVID codec properly using this guide - http://www.divx-digest.com/articles/xvid_setup.html - I daresay it's the \video.pass config of the statsfile option causing your problems ATM.

If that isn't the problem, then we can examine the logs, or get a more detailed description of what is going wrong.

[prufrockian]

BTW i tried AutoGK. i downloaded the new 2.27 version. i cant even get it to rip. i click add job and press start. it says commencing indexing nd stuff. and it just does nothing for ages. until i cancel it then it goes ABORTED, completed in 27mins bla bla.

i dont kno whats wrong wit it

I think you're trying to rip using AutoGK. I made the same mistake and the problem I had was exactly what you described. You need to use DVD Decrypter to rip the video to your hard drive, then point AutoGK to that ripped directory when you go to run the conversion.

AutoGK is definitely the way to go with your conversion, you can specify size but it's only single pass. Use AutoGK, XviD codec, and give it a shot with target size 175 MB, and see how it goes.

[manono]

you can specify size but it's only single pass.

Am I misunderstanding something? If you specify a size, by definition you get 2-pass encoding. If you specify Target Quality by percentage, then that's 1-pass encoding.

[stro_show]

okay i tired using DVD DECRYPTER and then i used the AutoGK to convert to xVid... it ripped to 175mb which was great, yet the quality of it was pretty bad. i'll try using different xVid settings and get back to you guys

[jimmalenko]

175MB should provide good results for a 21-22 min episode. Set the width to Auto and the audio to CBR 128 kbps MP3.

How are you watching these (Please don't say "full-screen and/or at 200% in Windows Media Player") ?

[manono]

And I'm not sure why you're comparing your Family Guy rips to someone else's Futurama rips. 2 different series that were mastered/encoded/authored differently. The Futuramas are nice, clean, and progressive, while the PAL Family Guy DVDs were made using the NTSC master, are interlaced and full of blends/ghosts. AutoGK can't do anything but deinterlace them. When you pause the playback during an action scene and advance a frame at a time, can't you see the blending/ghosting/double images? The only way you can clean them up would be to learn AviSynth and use an unblender on them. Face it, you bought trash. Might as well toss them out and buy the R1 DVDs.

celtic_druid said some of the same things several days ago, but I think it probably went over your head.

[RabidDog]

while the PAL Family Guy DVDs were made using the NTSC maste

How can you be sure?.. masters almost certainly hi-def now..

[manono]

Don't kid yourself.

[BJ_M]

while the PAL Family Guy DVDs were made using the NTSC maste

How can you be sure?.. masters almost certainly hi-def now..

nope -