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    So they're going ahead with Indy 4, what about a Jurassic Park 4?

    I liked 1 and 3 but the Lost World was a big let down.

    I think they've probably run out of ideas for JP. Though they did set up for another movie with the teranadons leaving the island. But thats the problem, you have only one known species leaving. For the rest you have to find another reason to go back.
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    I hated the Lost World. It differed way too much from the book. So did the first one but it was still pretty good. A lot of what was cut out from the first book ended up in the third movie.

    Another movie would probably be good. It all depends on the story.
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  3. Yoda, Steven said at an "Oscars" afterparty there would ba a JP4.
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    There seems to little motivation for a 4th JP movie, except for $$$ that is.
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    well it is already in production anyway

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  6. Originally Posted by Epicurus8a
    There seems to little motivation for a 4th JP movie, except for $$$ that is.
    $$$ is the only motivation Hollywood needs these days.
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    Originally Posted by yoda313
    So they're going ahead with Indy 4, what about a Jurassic Park 4?

    I liked 1 and 3 but the Lost World was a big let down.

    I think they've probably run out of ideas for JP. Though they did set up for another movie with the teranadons leaving the island. But thats the problem, you have only one known species leaving. For the rest you have to find another reason to go back.

    JP4 is much further along, Indy 4.


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    JP4 definitely has potential to work with. Michael Crichton had a hand in the first and third movies. He's supposed to be helping in the 4th movie too.

    Basically, they talk about the 5 deaths, which are the islands. both in the movie & in the book. Isla Nublar is not "Site A". (read the book to see) Isla Sorna is Site B, where they raised most of the dinosaurs, before transporting them to Isla Nublar. Site A would have been Los Angeles (you find this out from reading the second book, and brief touches in the 2nd movie). The dinosaurs were always made on the islands. All Islands were made 'off limits' by the Costa Rican government. There is strong potential that the other islands have dinosaurs on them. Plus different species, as in the 3rd movie, they said there were dinosaurs spotted that were "not on InGen's list".
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    Wow I had no idea it was green lit already. Interesting.
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    Originally Posted by Doramius
    JP4 definitely has potential to work with. Michael Crichton had a hand in the first and third movies. He's supposed to be helping in the 4th movie too.
    Hmm, if he was involved in the third movie, why did they stick with the T-Rex vision based on movement thing? Remember the scene in The Lost World with Dodgson?
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    Originally Posted by Conquest10
    I hated the Lost World. It differed way too much from the book.
    Actually the book differed from the movie The movie script was written before Crichton even began Lost World. He finished it during production and they ended up using the title of the book for the film, and then they went through and added in a few of the cooler scenes from the book. But the movie is not supposed to be an adaptation of the book.
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    Originally Posted by Conquest10
    Originally Posted by Doramius
    JP4 definitely has potential to work with. Michael Crichton had a hand in the first and third movies. He's supposed to be helping in the 4th movie too.
    Hmm, if he was involved in the third movie, why did they stick with the T-Rex vision based on movement thing? Remember the scene in The Lost World with Dodgson?
    You need to read the books. He was wrong about the movement. The second book described this. The third movie was also to show this. They stopped, but the T-Rex still roared at them that they were there. They ran off and the T-Rex stood still at Alan. Alan then ran, and so did the T-Rex.
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    I enjoyed the first one when it came out. The second was ok, but all ready began to feel re-hashed. Do we need 4 of these?

    Oh, and the first book was a good read back in the day.
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    Originally Posted by Doramius
    You need to read the books. He was wrong about the movement. The second book described this.
    That's what I'm talking about. The scene in the book where Dodgson's group comes up to a T-Rex and stand still thinking its vision is based on movement but find out they are very, very wrong.
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    So what's the problem?
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    Dodgson was in JP1 not two or three

    And yes the book said trex could see movement but they changed it to not seeing movement in the first movie.

    Just like how grant liked kids in the first book because they liked dinosaurs but they changed him to not like kids in the first movie.

    Happens a lot in book to movie adaptations. Things that work in books don't always work in the movie version.
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    The movement was dispelled in the first movie. Malcom proved it. He chucked the object the T-Rex would inevitably chased after had it been based on movement. And he ate Genaro, who barely moved on the toilet. The movement wasn't enough to be noticed in that much rain. He spotted the bright white. The goat also rested still. In 3 they show T-Rex as more of a scavanger as scientists are more believing. However, the movies follow it more than they expected it to. T-Rex basically found the goat & ate it. Why break through the wires when there's no food or movement for it to go after? It was the color of the vehicles. The T-Rex went for the brighter colors. That's why it didn't eat Grant & the girl at the side of the vehicle.

    The differences in transitions of the book & movie would have to be more in the physical look of the dinosaurs. The 3rd movie had feathers on the male Velociraptor. But the females still did not. They discovered that velociraptors had small amounts of feathers around the time of JP3, and they incorporated that. Also gave color to the male to show it's attractive features, that birds normally have. The females still were still similar in color through all 3 movies.

    Finally, There was mention that frog DNA was used to fill in the missing holes. "How much DNA was used?" is more the appropriate question to ask. This DNA can influence the behavior, & change the look of the dinosaurs. So when Grant says they are 'genetically engineered theme park monsters" and not dinosaurs, he is absolutely correct. However, the new breeding of the dinosaurs should start removing a bit the dilution of frog DNA. That means as time passes through breeding, dinosaurs will start to move back to they way they actually are supposed to be.

    Read a bit on Michael Crichton's background. He's notorious for doing EXTREME research for his books. Big fan of his here.

    I was disappointed at how they did Timeline, but if they do a really good job, I think they should make PREY & AIRFRAME. I'm working on STATE OF FEAR, right now. Got it for Christmas the year it came out, but never had a chance to read it.
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    Originally Posted by Doramius
    So what's the problem?
    No problem here.

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    Dodgson was in JP1 not two or three
    He was a main character in the Lost World (the book, I don't remember the movie too well).
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    Ah now I remember. In Lost World he got some kids to help out dig up dirt on INGEN right?

    But he only had the brief appearance with Nedry in JP1 and that was it.
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    Dodgson is about as important to JP as Chef is to SouthPark. :/
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    No. But at this point I think another SouthPark movie might be in order.
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