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I'm currently subbing an anime and would like to use softsubs for the DVDs. However I have a problem when it comes to translating signs etc. that are in the background.
Is there anyway to typeset when doing softsubs? (i.e. Position the subtitles where I want them on the screen) Or will I have to hardcode the subs for the signs into the video which would require re-encoding and quality loss.
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EDIT: Ignore all this, info's wrong. Look later.
Softsubs cannot really be positioned.
Your best bet is simply state in the sub like
Sign says: Fujiwara Tofu Shop
Sign says: Fresh tofu / Fried Tofu / Hand-made Daily -
Yeah I thought as much. Thanks.
How about if I want to have subs at the top and bottom of the screen simultaneously and in different colors or something to differentiate the signs or something? -
You can put subs anywhere on the screen that you want. The easiest thing to do is just take a screengrab from that scene and import it into any imaging software. Manually create your own little subpic to cover up the sign and then import that into your authoring software. Exactly how you do it will depend on what authoring software you use, but its very easy to do.
The problem though is that if the camera angle moves at all while the sign is on the screen it will ruin the effect. It would be too difficult to get the sub to move with the camera and the slight delay between subs would differ from one player to the next. But since this is anime its possible that sign remains totally static for that scene, in which case this is definitely possible to do. -
That sounds like an option. Would these still be removable using this method?
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These would be softsubs so you could toggle them on and off, or remove them from the DVD entirely through reauthoring.
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That's great. Now that I know it's possible. I'll mess around with it and try it out. Thanks for all your help.
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This small application may help for corrections after the authoring:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=104058 -
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or just type dvdsubedit.....and it will be clickable....
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I'll eat my own words. There's also MaestroSBT.
NOTE TO SELF: Subtitle channel on DVD VOBs is actually a series of overlaid BITMAPS known as subpictures over the main video stream. Thus, the words, and even pictures, can go almost anywhere provided you have the patience and the tools to manipulate each and every "subpicture".
DVDSubEdit, which was linked, is one such tool, the other is MaestroSBT. -
"I have a problem when it comes to translating signs etc. that are in the background. "
"Is there anyway to typeset when doing softsubs? (i.e. Position the subtitles where I want them on the screen) "
If I understand your post correctly, there was a similar thread at doom9 where the goal was to emulate dual sub tracks I think, have some appear normally and others in various places around the frame, sort of like CC positioning. Unfortunately not being an anime fan, I never paid that much attention and can only tell you that the thread's there and it went on for a while -- maybe a source of info anyway.
If that is what you're after, subs in different locations in the frame, not all at top or bottom etc., DVDA will allow you to adjust individual sub positions. As you're dealing with a sizable frame, could have text anywhere within that frame.
You might also check out the new version of DVDLab Pro... Only a guess as I'm very unsure about this, going from memory, but I *think* it allowed some individual sub placement, though from text or bitmap I'm unsure. -
Yeah. That's pretty much what I'd like to do. I'd like to have the option on the DVD toOriginally Posted by mikiem
(1) watch with a subtitle track for the dialogue
(2) watch with a subtitle track for the signs
(3) and watch with both sub tracks simultaneously.
I'll look into the latest version of DVD-Lab Pro if it has individual sub placement and also try out DVDSubEdit which sounds interesting. Thanks for all your help everybody.Originally Posted by mikiem -
"Yeah. That's pretty much what I'd like to do. I'd like to have the option on the DVD to
(1) watch with a subtitle track for the dialogue
(2) watch with a subtitle track for the signs
(3) and watch with both sub tracks simultaneously."
Using DVDA (maybe DVDLab Pro?) could create 1 sub track with reg subs, one with signs, third with both, having them switchable. -
Great. Didn't know how possible that would be and thought I might just have to make do with everythingone sub track. Wouldn't have been the end of the world but this is great news. I'll try in DVDLab Pro first as I've used it before.
Another question. For signs that are moving. Is it possible to import Flash animations into a subtitle stream to try and get the subtitle to scroll smoothly? -
I very much doubt that you could directly open and use Flash animations, but you could fairly easily convert the flash to a Picture sequence (via Virtualdub, Quicktime Pro, and/or some other QT/AVI middleman app). With the pictures formatted correctly (Size-wise, Bitdepth, file-format,etc) you could directly load them into a subtitle editor/sync app and have them "animate". I've done a similar thing before with Musical Notes (Cakewalk "play score", Vid screencap, export to AVI/QT, convert to BMP sequence, import to sub editor). Worked great!Originally Posted by Aryudsoh
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Wow. Sounds quite complex. At least I know its possible. I may need to ask for more help when I get round to that phase. Thanks for the info.
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