DVD Ripping Speed Tips

[Dhruv]

I've browsed the forums and collected and compiled all of the best tips and information regarding DVD Ripping speeds.

Tip #1: Enable DMA
DMA transfer is an option in modern drives which is an improved transfer method over PIO. With this enabled on both your hard drive and DVD-ROM drive, DVD ripping speeds can be significantly improved.

Steps to enable DMA (Windows XP)
Right click on 'My Computer' on your desktop and select Properties. Click the Hardware tab and launch the Device Manager. Press the + sign to expand the trees of both 'DVD/CD-ROM Drives' and 'IDE Controllers'. Double click your DVD-ROM drive, click the Advanced Settings tab and change the transfer mode to DMA if available. Repeat this step for the IDE channel which your hard drive is on.

Note for Intel motherboard users: If you have an Intel chipset, then you may not see the Advanced Settings tab. If this is the case, I recommend that you download the Intel Application Accelerator from Intel as that will automatically enables DMA on devices which support it.

Note 2: If the Advanced Settings tab isn't visible then you may need to activate DMA on your devices through your system BIOS during startup.

Tip #2: Update Firmware
Some DVD-ROM manufacturers purposely limit the DVD ripping speed of ther drives to try and prevent customers from making copies of retail DVDs. Normally, the limitation can be bypassed by flashing your DVD-ROM drive with an updated or hacked firmware (which also may allow you to make your DVD-ROM drive region-free).

Warning: Flashing your device's firmware can result in permenant damage of your DVD-ROM drive. DO NOT undertake this step if you are uncomfortable with the risk! You have been warned!

Tip #3: Re-install IDE Controller
Some people on this forum have reported that re-installing their primary IDE controller gave them a boost in ripping speed. I haven't tested this method, so I cannot provide you with many details.

Steps to re-install Primary IDE Controller (Windows XP)
Right click on 'My Computer' on your desktop and select Properties. Click the Hardware tab and launch the Device Manager. Press the + sign to expand the tree of 'IDE Controllers'. Right click your Primary IDE Controller and select Uninstall. Now re-boot your computer, and Windows should automatically re-install your IDE Controller.

Note: If anybody has any more information or results regarding this Tip, then please get in touch with me as I'm interested to hear about it!

Tip #4: Install Latest ASPI Layers
This is a fairly gray area as some people have mentioned that they see a performance increase in ripping speed when ASPI layers are installed, whilst others have said the opposite. I suggest you experiment with both and use whatever works best for you because the ASPI layers are easy to install/un-install.

Where to get the ASPI layers
You'll always be able to find the latest version of the ASPI layers for your operating system, right here in the Tools section.

Tip #5: Try another DVD ripper
This tip may seem a little bizarre, but give it a shot!
If you are using Smart Ripper, try using DVDDecrypter instead, or vice versa. You never know, you may experience better results with another ripper.

Tip #6: Disabling Plextor 708As Noise Reduction Function
Submitted by unloaded
This only applies to Plextor 708A's but it makes a big difference, copied from manual:

Switching Between SpeedRead and Silent Operation
When you are playing a DVD-Video disc that has CSS (copy protection
via the Content Scrambling System), the PX-708A normally plays at a
slow speed (silent operation) to reduce drive noise. You can speed up
DVD playback by using the eject button to enable SpeedRead.
To manually enable SpeedRead and speed up DVD playback:
1. Ensure the PX-708A disc tray is closed and empty.
2. Press and hold the PX-708A's eject button for at least 3 seconds. The
LED indicator blinks green three times to indicate SpeedRead will
be active for DVD-Video discs with CSS copy protection.
3. Release the eject button. The disc tray opens.
4. Insert a DVD-Video disc that is equipped with CSS copy protection.
5. Begin playing the disc

Update: Those who wish to have more control over this setting (amongst an array of others) can purchase PlexTools, a software package released by Plextor allowing enhancements to specific functions.

Tip #7: If all else fails..
If none of these tips seem to work out for you and you're losing hair due to frustration, then you may want to look into the market for another DVD-ROM drive.
I recommend a LiteOn DVD-ROM drive as they've gotten great feedback from other members over here and retail at a mere $60 AUD.


If anybody would like to share any other tips which have worked for them, then please contact me and I will update this post.

Good luck,

[deep_FXP]

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[ixll]

http://www.cdspeed2000.com/go.php3?link=dvdresults.php3

^^^

Lists a bunch of DVD-Rom drives and the real world ripping speed you should get off of them.

[AdamRA4]

*EDIT*

[Faustus]

Wrong place for the post I take it?

[SydBarrett78]

I'd like to add something to the tips for increasing ripping speed. I came onto this by complete accident. Most of us have heard that sometimes Windows XP will throw your IDE devices back into a slow PIO transfer mode without your knowledge (or approval). But how about it hiding a faster mode from you altogether? Well I use an Artec 16x DVD-Rom, and with DVD Decrypter I used to get ripping speeds max out at about 6x or 7x but usually was around 4x or 5x. In my Device Manager it always listed these devices as being in Multi-Word DMA Mode 2. I thought this was the fastest mode my machine could run in. Well I was taking a look through the BIOS settings at startup the other day and I came across the settings for the IDE devices. There were settings like this:

Primary Master PIO: AUTO
Primary Slave PIO: AUTO
Secondary Master PIO: AUTO
Secondary Slave PIO: AUTO
Primary Master DMA: DISABLED
Primary Slave DMA: DISABLED
Secondary Master DMA: DISABLED
Secondary Slave DMA: DISABLED

I have my hard drive on Primary Master, nothing on Primary Slave. NEC DVD writer is on Secondary Master, Artec DVD-Rom is Secondary Slave. First I tried to Disable all those PIO modes listed above. It would not let me. It gave me the options of Auto and numbers from 1 to 4 or 5. I left them on AUTO. But I could ENABLE the DMA in these settings! Remember, even though it lists DMA modes as DISABLED here, I was using all my devices in Multi-Word DMA Mode 2. However, after changing these settings in the BIOS and restarting, all my devices list as ULTRA DMA MODE 2. My ripping speeds on the Artec have nearly doubled! The NEC may also write better on cheap media (not exactly sure about that one yet). I am getting better performance all around, CD/DVD Rom read speeds, hard drive read times, everything... I have gone from averaging 4x-6x dvd ripping speeds on the Artec to 9x-12x!

Maybe some of you, like me, can benefit from tweaking those BIOS settings. See, I knew the BIOS could do things like that, but since the devices already were listing in Multi Word DMA, I didn't think anythink else needed to be enabled. So give it a shot, see if it helps you too!

God bless!

Mike.

[chipy66]

I cant seem to swich those settings in my bios

i downloaded the intel application accelerator
my primary master is my main hardrive i have it set to udma-5, i assume this is fastest? theres also dma mw2?
primary slave - secondary hard drive

secondory master is my dvdrom - its set to udma 2 - i could also choose dma-mw2though?

my secondary slave is my dvd-rw - i left it on "no limit" as it was working fine...should i change it to one of the other ones?

xp seems to reset these settings all the time for some reason..

[giraffe]

I've only ripped 2 dvds using dvdshrink but they've taken upto 6hr for a 1hr50 film plus extras..

I am unable to set the DMA setting on my primary/secondary IDE channels as it freezes/not responding the burning software (nero6)
so it's left in PIO

It's been mentioned i could upgrade my motherboard drivers to solve this problem. Is it easy to do? or should i just put the kettle or go for a long walk for the day..

my system is p3 600Mhz 256ram 4x lite-on dvd writer and using XP

[jimmalenko]

I've only ripped 2 dvds using dvdshrink but they've taken upto 6hr for a 1hr50 film plus extras..

I am unable to set the DMA setting on my primary/secondary IDE channels as it freezes/not responding the burning software (nero6)
so it's left in PIO

Well the first thing I would do is close all programs before you try to do this.

[JSB]

I've browsed the forums and collected and compiled all of the best tips and information regarding DVD Ripping speeds.

Tip #1: Enable DMA
DMA transfer is an option in modern drives which is an improved transfer method over PIO. With this enabled on both your hard drive and DVD-ROM drive, DVD ripping speeds can be significantly improved.

Steps to enable DMA (Windows XP)
Right click on 'My Computer' on your desktop and select Properties. Click the Hardware tab and launch the Device Manager. Press the + sign to expand the trees of both 'DVD/CD-ROM Drives' and 'IDE Controllers'. Double click your DVD-ROM drive, click the Advanced Settings tab and change the transfer mode to DMA if available. Repeat this step for the IDE channel which your hard drive is on.

Note for Intel motherboard users: If you have an Intel chipset, then you may not see the Advanced Settings tab. If this is the case, I recommend that you download the Intel Application Accelerator from Intel as that will automatically enables DMA on devices which support it.

Note 2: If the Advanced Settings tab isn't visible then you may need to activate DMA on your devices through your system BIOS during startup.


Tip #3: Re-install IDE Controller
Some people on this forum have reported that re-installing their primary IDE controller gave them a boost in ripping speed. I haven't tested this method, so I cannot provide you with many details.

Steps to re-install Primary IDE Controller (Windows XP)
Right click on 'My Computer' on your desktop and select Properties. Click the Hardware tab and launch the Device Manager. Press the + sign to expand the tree of 'IDE Controllers'. Right click your Primary IDE Controller and select Uninstall. Now re-boot your computer, and Windows should automatically re-install your IDE Controller.

Note: If anybody has any more information or results regarding this Tip, then please get in touch with me as I'm interested to hear about it!

Tip #1 and #3 overlap....
If your HD's are stuck in PIO mode even though you have "DMA if available" then un-install the (primary) IDE controller (tip #3).

XP can be very stuborn though.... so bring out the big guns and get into you registry:

http://sniptools.com/vault/getting-back-to-dma-mode-in-windows-xp.htm

Following is the mechanism that has worked for me, please try it at your own risk, it involves hacking the registry: 

1. Open RegEdit 

2. Find the following KEY: 
 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\ Class\{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\000x

3.The last four digits will be 0000, 0001, 0002, 0003, and so on. 
4.Under each key, delete all occurences of the following values: 
     MasterIdDataChecksum 
     SlaveIdDataChecksum 
5. Reboot the computer. Windows will now redetect DMA settings.

Once I tried the "un-install IDE chanel" trick 5 times... no luck. Primary IDE was in PIO and would not reset to DMA. Used the registry tweak and BAM... DMA all around!

JSB

PS please try it at your own risk, it involves hacking the registry!

[eKa]

When on the subject of DMA and Ultra DMA I believe that you need to ensure that you use appropriate cable eg 80-Conductor-IDE Cable( ).
The extra wires (standard IDE cable has 40 wires) provide Master Slave identification (end =master Middle = slave) plus an earth between each wire which allows significantly greater speeds.

Also ensure that the CD/DVD is on a different cable to the HDD else it will impact on the HDD speeds.

Of course the most important and easiest tip is ensure that the DVD is clean without fingerprints and other associated muck, as these along with scratches will cause grief for the hardiest of DVD players

[blinky88]

eKa, thanks for mentioning the 80-conductor cable issue. All my drives are connected with the old 40 wire IDE cable.

[fliptricky]

I'm using Nero 6 - Used to be I could rip at 4x - Now I cant rip over 1x no matter what media I use......

Any advice?

[agee]

Fliptricky...what you can do is look for hacked firmware...I have an OLD liteon DVD-rom which is slowing down to like 2.4x only...use to be 6x.... I look around and found a hack to release the lock and now it's ripping at 10x...sometime higher...even work with DVD-r..I have the choice of 12x hack or 16x hack and I choose 12x because I don't see any benefit from 16x unless I wanted a new drive...

hope this help...

[budz]

I'm using Nero 6 - Used to be I could rip at 4x - Now I cant rip over 1x no matter what media I use......

Any advice?

would help to know what dvd-rom or dvd burner you have? check to see the drive is in DMA MODE......

[Deku Scrub]

Code:
Following is the mechanism that has worked for me, please try it at your own risk, it involves hacking the registry:

1. Open RegEdit

2. Find the following KEY:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\ Class\{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\000x

3.The last four digits will be 0000, 0001, 0002, 0003, and so on.
4.Under each key, delete all occurences of the following values:
MasterIdDataChecksum
SlaveIdDataChecksum
5. Reboot the computer. Windows will now redetect DMA settings.

I just wanna say that this tip just saved me a lot of time.
My backups suddenly were taking 2+ hours... I followed the steps above, and now I'm back down to 30 minutes.
Thanks a bunch! You guys are great!

[zzNyQuilzz]

Code:
Following is the mechanism that has worked for me, please try it at your own risk, it involves hacking the registry:

1. Open RegEdit

2. Find the following KEY:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\ Class\{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\000x

3.The last four digits will be 0000, 0001, 0002, 0003, and so on.
4.Under each key, delete all occurences of the following values:
MasterIdDataChecksum
SlaveIdDataChecksum
5. Reboot the computer. Windows will now redetect DMA settings.

I just wanna say that this tip just saved me a lot of time.
My backups suddenly were taking 2+ hours... I followed the steps above, and now I'm back down to 30 minutes.
Thanks a bunch! You guys are great!

Once this process is done where you delete the registry keys once u reboot ur pc will those very same keys be back in the registry??? Thats what happened to me... My drives rip and burn back to normal now but everytime i delete these registry keys and reboot they reappear... Is this whats supposed to happen???

[craiggus365]

Yes...They should come back. You are just resetting.

If you still have a problem try this link. It helped me..

http://sniptools.com/vault/getting-back-to-dma-mode-in-windows-xp.htm

Pay close attention to the posts... the registry hacks they give work...

[zworg2]

Tip #3: Re-install IDE Controller
Some people on this forum have reported that re-installing their primary IDE controller gave them a boost in ripping speed. I haven't tested this method, so I cannot provide you with many details.

Steps to re-install Primary IDE Controller (Windows XP)
Right click on 'My Computer' on your desktop and select Properties. Click the Hardware tab and launch the Device Manager. Press the + sign to expand the tree of 'IDE Controllers'. Right click your Primary IDE Controller and select Uninstall. Now re-boot your computer, and Windows should automatically re-install your IDE Controller.

Note: If anybody has any more information or results regarding this Tip, then please get in touch with me as I'm interested to hear about it!

I had a problem, in that i had to play about inside my PC. I took the opportunity and dismantled it completely cleaned and rebuilt it.

After the re-build my generic drive (on the secondary IDE controller) only ripped at about 2.2x, when it used to average about 6x and peak at 10x.

After reading your sticky i checked to see if it was in (ultra) DMA, it wasnt.
But i wasnt able to get it out of PIO. So i de-installed the secondary DE controller. restarted PC and viola, re-detected and is now in DMA.

I realise this is old thread., but thought this would be helpful to anyone else unwilling to hack the registry or fiddle too much in the BIOS (although i did try this as well)

[MexicoMatt]

Hi Everyone,

Just wanted to let you know i have just tryed the registry edit thing,...and it appears to have worked fine, i just burnt a DVD, done in like 7 minutes, just like before, i am still confused as to how the settings got changed, but who the hell cares if i can fix it anyway
!!!
MM

[TooLFooL]

DON'T uninstall your primary IDE controller! that's (usually) your HDD.
dvd-roms are (usually) on the secondary controller

[jimmalenko]

Uninstalling your Primary IDE controller is fine, provided you reboot immediately. True, you would only do it when your DVD drive is on it as well (when it is, it's usually Slave). A number of ripping programs change the drive access to PIO mode when having difficulties ripping discs, and XP seems to "lock" it on PIO mode on occassion, and the only way I've been able to free up the drive is to uninstall the IDE controller and reboot.

As I said though, as long as you reboot immediately, there is no harm done (in my experience).

[TooLFooL]

o, i thought it might cause problems trying to reboot, i mean if you uninstall the boot drive controller? will it reinstall itself & boot right up?

[jimmalenko]

o, i thought it might cause problems trying to reboot, i mean if you uninstall the boot drive controller? will it reinstall itself & boot right up?

No. It autodetects the IDE controller(s) again and installs the software for them, the same as when you boot a fresh install of Windows for the first time.

[Dex Sinister]

HOW TO: Alter Window's Registry Settings to change DMA to re-upgrade themselves after later successful CD / DVD read operation.

Do read this article because it contains a useful long-term workaround. But
you have to go through the procedure described above to re-enable DMA first.

Assuming you've done that, insert the ResetErrorCountersOnSuccess registry values mentioned in this article into both the primary and the secondary IDE port registry keys as described.

Unfortunately this is only a half solution, because when you enter an
unreadable DVD, you will get 6 errors in a row, and the IDE channel will
revert to PIO mode, but at least when you pull out the DVD in time and then insert a good one, the error counter will be reset and it will at least be a bit more difficult for Windows to hobble your IDE drive.

From http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=817472

The hotfix that this article describes makes the following changes:

• In Windows 2000 only, read requests to ATA disks are sometimes issued with a time-out value of 4 seconds. This occurs when your computer resumes from standby. This might cause a disk time-out because drives typically take more than 4 seconds to spin up. This time-out value was changed to 10 seconds.

In Windows XP and Windows Server 2003, this time-out value is always 10 seconds.
• An alternate, less-aggressive policy is implemented to reduce the transfer mode (from faster to slower DMA modes, and then eventually to PIO mode) on time-out and CRC errors. [b]The existing behavior is that the IDE/ATAPI Port driver (Atapi.sys) reduces the transfer mode after any 6 cumulative time-out or CRC errors. When the new policy is implemented by this fix, Atapi.sys reduces the transfer mode only after 6 consecutive time-out or CRC errors. This new policy is implemented only if the registry value that is described later in this article is present.
To implement the alternate behavior (reducing the transfer mode after six consecutive time-out or CRC errors instead of after six cumulative time-out or CRC errors), you must modify the registry as described below after you apply the hotfix.

WARNING: If you use Registry Editor incorrectly, you may cause serious problems that may require you to reinstall your operating system. Microsoft cannot guarantee that you can solve problems that result from using Registry Editor incorrectly. Use Registry Editor at your own risk.

Follow these steps, and then quit Registry Editor:
1. Click Start, click Run, type regedit, and then click OK.
2. Locate and then click the following key in the registry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Class\{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\0001
3. On the Edit menu, point to New, and then click DWORD Value.
4. Type ResetErrorCountersOnSuccess, and then press ENTER.
5. On the Edit menu, click Modify.
6. Type 1, and then click OK.
Follow these steps, and then quit Registry Editor:
1. Click Start, click Run, type regedit, and then click OK.
2. Locate and then click the following key in the registry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Class\{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\0002
3. On the Edit menu, point to New, and then click DWORD Value.
4. Type ResetErrorCountersOnSuccess, and then press ENTER.
5. On the Edit menu, click Modify.
6. Type 1, and then click OK.
Note The numbered subkeys that are listed earlier correspond to the primary and secondary IDE channels on a computer that contains a single IDE controller. If your computer contains two IDE controllers, the numbered subkeys for the primary and secondary IDE channels for each of the two controllers may be:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Class\{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\0002

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Class\{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\0003

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Class\{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\0004

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Class\{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\0005
To verify that you have located the correct subkey, verify that the DriverDesc value for the subkey contains the string value "Primary IDE Channel" or the string value "Secondary IDE Channel."

This information was supplied by Micro Advantage Tech Support

~ Dex }:>=-