Inserting one clip many times

[kidmegabit]

I have an AVI movie that I need to copy/make a clip of, or whatever one calls what I want to do, and can't find an answer to.

What I want to do is:
copy or whatever you'd call it, a frame/piece of that same video and add it to the original AVI several times between frames. I've been told how to make a jpg, but that's still photo and I want moving video inserted throughout the video. Say, like every other frame, I want this one bit to be inbetween those other frames. Can any one help me here? I'm using Windows Movie Maker but am willing to try another program if it works better.

[gadgetguy]

I don't understand what your goal is, (and I suspect others are also having trouble). A frame of video is a still picture, it takes several frames to make a video. A clip is a collection of frames that is part of a larger video. It would not make sense to put a clip between every frame. The video would be incoherent. Are you trying to insert clips like commercials in a show?

Edit: You may also want to change the title of your thread because it does not describe your problem as specified in the forum rules.

[gll99]

Same issues for me as raised by gadgetguy

Further to that also. If your repeating clip is 30 frames (about a second) or longer you would never see anything else but your repeating clip the rest of the frames from the original video would be subliminal.

[gadgetguy]

your repeating clip the rest of the frames from the original video would be subliminal.

Or if the frame is substantially different (dark clip, white frame), it would appear as flashes.

[gll99]

gll99 wrote
your repeating clip the rest of the frames from the original video would be subliminal.

gadgetguy wrote
Or if the frame is substantially different (dark clip, white frame), it would appear as flashes.

Good point. That could be.

kidmegabit wrote

a frame/piece of that same video

I took it that if it came from the same clip it would be same specs but you never know. I have a feeling though that 1 frame in 30 or more would stay invisible to the eye. This however is more from what I seem to remember about subliminal messages in video rather than from actual experience.

[Megahurts]

kidmegabit,

Using Adobe Premeir, import the avi clip and put on video 1 timeline. Import the jpeg and right click and set the duration to 1 frame (0:00:00:01). Place the jpeg on video 2 time line where ever you want it to appear.

I'm sure other programs that use timelines can do this in a simular fashion.

Hope this helps.

Chas

[kidmegabit]

Okay, let me try this then. I seem to have confused you all and I didn't mean to do that but I wasn't sure of the technical terms associated with what I want to do.

Are you trying to insert clips like commercials in a show?

Sort of, but not commercials. Maybe Clip is the word I couldn't associate with what I wanted to do. I want to take a certain clip and place it between other clips at intervals. Does that make more sense?


Also, I've seen something similar to what I want to do in a video using Premiere Elements. The narator took a clip??? piece of the video and moved it to another spot in the movie. What I want to do is use one part of the video in many different spots in the same movie. Does that make more sense?

[gadgetguy]

Yes that makes more sense, and should be fairly simple for most NLEs. Unfortunately, I'm not familiar with Windows Movie Maker so I can't help you with that.
In Virtualdub (for example) I would highlight the clip that I want to use and Save as AVI the clip to a seperate file, then edit the endpoint of the video to the point where I want the clip then "Append" the clip, then append the original video again and edit the start point to the frame after the last frame of the first edit and the last frame where I want to insert the clip, append clip, append original, etc.
In AviSynth, I would identify the clip I want to use and assign it to a variable that I would use over and over ., etc.

[kidmegabit]

OK, I said if there was another program that works better than WMM, I'd use that one. I don't much care for WMM at this point. I'll give virtualdub a try tomorrow. Right now, I'm so frustrated and tired, and I've got a headache to boot. I'll have to wait to try this again. I have been beating my head against a wall trying to sort this mess out, that I've got to rest. Thanks gadgetguy for your help.

[guns1inger]

WMM seems to be a pretty simple beast, but it can do what you want.

All you have to do is select your clip so that it appears in the preview window. Move your timeslider to where you want to insert yopur first clip, and press ctrl+shift+s (split) to break your main clip at the point. Continue along to the next point you want to insert a clip, and split again. Keep doing this until you have all the sections you need. Now reassemble them on the timeline with the short insert clip inbetween each piece..

[kidmegabit]

That sounds complicated. LOL And if I split the clip I want, will that remove it from the original?

gadgetguy: I downloaded those programs, but when trying to install virtualdub, I get a message after clicking on the setup.exe that it needs to extract files to a folder before it can run??? As far as I know, .exe files are executable and should just open. Anyway, I didn't opt to extract, I just canceled out.

[Syco54645]

extract the virtualdub files to a folder then run them

-Syco54645

[guns1inger]

The splitting only happens inside WMM, your original files aren't changed.

If you think that sounds too complicated, then you had better forget virtualdub. WMM is, sadly, about as easy as editing gets.

[kidmegabit]

I didn't mean it was too complicated, just complicated. I have yet to find anything I couldn't concur given time. I started college at age 42 and now have a BA. I started building and repairing computers 6 years ago, and now I'm manager of a pc shop after only 7 months employment. So, to take back the complicated scenerio, it was just I was tired last night, and didn't really think what I was typing. I'll get this done, it may take me longer than I wanted it too, but......I persevere.

[gll99]

That sounds complicated. LOL And if I split the clip I want, will that remove it from the original?

gadgetguy: I downloaded those programs, but when trying to install virtualdub, I get a message after clicking on the setup.exe that it needs to extract files to a folder before it can run??? As far as I know, .exe files are executable and should just open. Anyway, I didn't opt to extract, I just canceled out.

If you got vdub from a known site or a link posted here in the tool section then it' s safe. It's probably only a self extracting (exe) zip. If you look closely it may even ask you if you want to open it with winzip.

Also when you edit the original video is not touched. It could only possibly overwrite if you save with the same name when you are done and I'm not sure it would let you do that

[kidmegabit]

Okay, thanks all for confirming my original won't be touched. I'll have to wait until the weekend before attempting this again. I've got work inbetween play time.