whats the deal sony? why trying so hard to copy protect?

[Boondock]

i it all about the money you think? probably no need to answer that one. i'm sure it is.
seems like these companies that are releasing these dvd's and sony especially is dropping lots of money in trying to copy protect these dvd's. they are so worried about a loss of revenue?
how is this any different that copying or backing up that has been going on with other media formats for 20 years?
i remember 20 years ago when it was all about vhs and people would hook up 2 vcr's to their tv's so they could rent movies and tape them as they watch them. it wasn't a big deal then. what about people that had all the movie channels back then? all 4 of them you know hbo, showtime, cinemax, tmc. people would set their vcr's to record a movie when it came on. that was the early version of the dvr. if you set the vcr to extended play you could stuff 3, 2 hour movies on one tape.
how about audio cassettes? i remember when they had those crazy giant boom boxes with dueal cassette players. you could pop an audio tape in one side and make an exact copy. was it no big deal then? seems like when computers became a household item is when the studios really started to take notice.
for a while there cd's were essentially copy proof. computers hit it big with the early windows machines and as specs started to get better people started to rip cd's. then it was ripping and burning. then it was ripping and sharing ove the p2p. same is happening with the movies now.
studios really seem to be trying their hardest to stop this. no matter how hard they try they are not gonna stop it. it will always be there.
maybe when i was a kid and it was all about copying tapes the studios were in a frenzy over it and i just don't remember cause i was young. it seems like now though it is a serious problem to them. i think they should just give it up. they are never going to stop it.
every time they release a new disc or whatever the new thing is thats copy proof it will get figured out.
people like us on the outside have strenth in numbers. it WILL get figured out. you'd think they know this by now. i know they are trying to save money but how much could they save if they just stop trying? a lot i'm sure.
next month they may release something new that is copy proof and in a flash someone will figure it out.


i remember some time ago one of the major studios released this new cd that could not be copied. actually i think it couldn't even be played in a pc. something about how the pc's read a certain area of the disc first and they corrupted that part of the disc with useless data that the pc could not get past. home stereos did not have this problem. anyway, some young ass teenage kid crackred it. i think it was the outside edge that was corrupted. this kid took a sharpie marker and traced all around the edge of the disc and put it in his rig and it played fine. millions spent on a copy proof cd and it was cracked by a kid with a marker.
hahahahahahahah

[ROF]

The difference between 20 years ago and today is Al Gore created the internet and the information age and free exchange of information on a global scale is now a reality. Copy protection is about money. It's about protecting money rightful due to those who bring you entertainment. A weekly check of the "I need help backing up" threads here should clue you into how much more and stronger copy protection is needed. Hopefully soon devices will include stricter protections to help ensure quality entertainment can be provided to you while those who bring it can continue to make a million dollars per episode or multi-millions for a supporting role in a lackluster flick.

[guns1inger]

They didn't like it then (why do you think they put macrovision on them), but the problem wasn't as widespread, you couldn't distribute the copies as easily, and the quality of the copies was often poor, and degraded with each subsequent copy.

Times have changed. Now the ability to copy is the hands of anyone who can afford a PC and takes the time to read a little, or download a one-click-wonder copy program. Anyone with a fast net connection (or a slow connection and patience) can download copies of movies or audio that far surpass the analogue copies of the past. Even if a Divx isn't DVD quality, it sure the hell beats VHS. And the net makes distribution simple and widespread.

In short, they never liked it, but as it has become easier, they have become more vocal.

Do I agree with piracy - no. Do I agree with the RIAA and the MPAA and their international equivelents - No. Their product is not value for money any more. I think the ratio of classic to crap has remained constant for the past 25 years (about 999 craps films per decent film), however the price of admission has risen steadily higher. I can buy two DVDs for the price of taking my family to the movies (and not have to put up with the ******* in the third row). So I don't go to the movies any more. When I started buying DVDs I bought a lot. All the great films I loved were purchased as they were released. But now I have most of what I wan't, so it is the new releases they have to entice me with to get my hard-earned. At a ratio of 999:1, that's a lot of my $$$s they aint going to get. So they will blame the revenue I don't spend (and therefore they don't get) on piracy instead of their own sub-standard product. Basing their losses on 'potential earnings' is a false economy. Every film has the potential to earn a billion dollars. Very few will realistically do so. Because most are crap. So when they can come up with a real arguement that proves that piracy is the cause of their woes, I may choose to support them. Until then, you might as well blame global warming, the fall of communism and the slashing of the rainforests on movie pirates. It makes as much sense.

What was the question again ?

[greymalkin]

the truly sad part of the whole saga is the only people not suffering from all these copy protection schemes are the pirates themselves...

it's the people who legitimately download the music that have to wait 10 seconds for media player to "call home" or re-enter their information if they want to play it on their other computer...

it's the legitimate purchasers of WindowsXP that have to sit on the phone to re-activate their copy because they did a little too much upgrading to their pc.

and on into the future..the legitimate users will have to drudge through the web of activations, verifications, and who knows what else they will come up with while the pirates coast right on through catching a free ride on the gravy train....it's like getting a free ticket to a concert then getting to cut in line in front of all who had to pay...

on the other hand..the companies can't just stop trying to find that perfect copy protection scheme...so this cycle will continue on