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    Dears of Video Help:

    We need to buy a projector with a projection distance of 11 m. The dimensions of the screen are of 3.14m to 1.65 m
    Another fundamental aspect is that it must admit "double simultaneous entry". The projector must have this because I need to subtitle some movies from a computer or other sistem (simultaneously with the exhibition of the movie).
    I saw the projector Epson emp 8300, it has this system. But, I need something simpler.
    Besides it, I wanted to know if you sell equipments of subtitling that connect to the projector, and which is the cost.
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    it would be cheaper (becuase of your small sceeen) - to buy two inexpensive projectors at about $1500-3500 each ..

    or a good one at $2000-4000 and a cheap one (for the subtitles) at 1000$

    not sure which kind of subtitle equipment you want - some can be very expensive .. DTS sells a projector /subtitle system for theaters - but for normal size screens ... the cost will scare you ..

    cheapest method it to use a computer and just have it connected to second projector (as mentioned above) and type out the subtitles with white text on black background in wordpad (if you need realtime) .. you can more fancy from there ...
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    Another fundamental aspect is that it must admit "double simultaneous entry".
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    Sounds pretty kinky..........
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    thanks BJ , in fact we are looking for an only equipment with double simultaneous entrance. żdo you know if exist a smaler than the Epson EMp 8300? where from the same projector send two images simoultaneous.

    Please help me with that because here nobody knows nothing of this type of technology.
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    the only ones i know about are all larger than the epson emp8300 ..

    i do know what you are talking about in fact (i understand what you are requesting) ..

    this is done all the time in churchs - ussually with a seperate keyer or 2nd projector ..

    http://www.churchmedia.net/CMU/articles/video/overlay.shtml
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    What is a"seperate keyer"

    thanks a lot, for your disposition !!

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    I entered this page http://www.churchmedia.net/CMU/articles/video/overlay.shtml
    and I saw : a compute, a proyector, a reproductor of dvd or video and other equip that it send vga out to the computer and it receiv vga in, and video in, and it send video out to the project.
    What is this equip ???? it is not a projector nor a reproducer of video/dvd eighter. Then, what is this equip? Where can I to see about this?? thanks a alot again.
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    that piece of equipment in the center is the keyer -- that is like a CORIOgen Eclipse unit , which is a keyer with computer input

    http://www.keyzone.com/converters/corio-eclipse.htm
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    I entered to the page of keyzone and I saw the converters. Besaid it, I writed to him about my interest. But perhaps you can to know more about this topic:

    Can I to exhibit a dvd original with this equipment and Can I to put other subtitles to this film simultaneosly?? And to exhibit it with a projector in a cinema screen (with a projector).

    In that case, Shall you tell me that type of projector I need in addition to the converter.
    Sinceraly: thank a lot
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    yes you can do that ...

    and as for projector - what is your budget (in US$ apx.) as i tend to go for expensive ones ..
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    I don`t know the budgest, but it is essential for us.

    We need to buy a projector with a projection distance of 11 m. The dimensions of the screen are of 3.14m to 1.65 m

    As for distance : I believe it is important that it has manual zoom lens, but I am not sure. Can you explain to me on this?
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    a good choice would be the InFocus LP815 or LP820 Projector with the optional long throw lens (3x - 5x zoom)

    those same models are also sold by 'Proxima' and
    'ASK Proxima' in different countries - same units though ..
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    As for proyector Infocus LP815 o LP820

    In the page of Infocus said:

    Focus Range: 5' / 1.5 m to 32.8' / 10 m (Note that image remains in focus at longer distances. However, the brightness level drops as the throw distance increases.)


    I need a projector with a projection distance of 11 m. and besaide it projector must to acept a converter.

    Can you help me?

    thats why I said you need the optional long throw lens ... you will have plenty of brightness for the small screen you have .. plus light does not decrease with distance (much) in these throw distances ..
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    Hello, managers of this forum, continuing this discussion I comment to you it served me very much the information that you gave to me on Coriogen Eclipse. But in my country it is not easy to obtain.

    I am quarrelling and they say to me in a company that the equipment Coriogen Eclipse recommended by you to achieve the transmission of imágen and subtitles (like in this page: http://www.churchmedia.net/CMU/articles/video/overlay.shtml)
    They say me that Coriogen is like the Kramer VP725DS.

    In uruguay is not representants of Coriogen (Seemingly)
    I need to know if this equipment (Kramer VP725DS ) is really like the Coriogen and if it is going to serve me.

    thank a lot again

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    it is nearly like it - the kramer has more features and as such, is more expensive ($3000 US) ..

    i have used a lot of kramer equipment and it is very good quality though.

    The Kramer would work - but it is more complex to set up and use -


    there would be other options - but the kramer would serve you well with a lot of flexability ..
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    I know you can get a Coriogen Eclipse at www.videoguys.com

    shipping it to Uruguay is another mater - (I'll bring it down for you though ! )

    but the people at www.videoguys.com are very trust worthy to do business with ..
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    Hello, I am writing to videoguys in this moment!!

    Another thing:
    Our projector is a Sony VPL PS 10. You think that there is no problem of compatibility (with the Coriogen or with the Kramer). ??

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    Indeed the only use that we are going to give it is to subtitle. Because of it does not matter for me if it is not the best equipment.

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    for only subtitle use - the kramer is overkill, as it is also a scaler ...

    you can get a subtitle unit for less than 1000$ - but only pal/ntsc quality ..

    the nice thing of the kramer (or Coriogen) is that they operate at much better resolution .. and quality ..

    but your projector is only 800x600 pixel native resolution - so both of the units better quality is not going to be realized .. thus , operating at ntsc/pal resolution is prob. a good thing anyway ..

    that is an old projector - not so good for video - only 1500 lm
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    -you can get a subtitle unit for less than 1000$ :

    yes, but where!!, the problem for us is that we have to matter. And is easy contact with big Companies like Sony, Epson, etc. but other Companies is not representates here. Do you know anything important Companies with a subtitle unit. ?? But remember I need to make like this: http://www.churchmedia.net/CMU/articles/video/overlay.shtml

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    hello!!!

    This information is very important for my because in this days I must to buy the equipment.

    I wait for your answer !

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    the CORIOgen Eclipse, it is the the most value featured for the money ($600) THAT I KNOW OF .. but there are other products ... vidoguys can maybe help --

    or the people here that specialize in this stuff big time :

    BernClare Multimedia Inc.
    333 Denison St., Unit 17
    Markham, Ontario, Canada
    L3R 2Z4
    Phone: (905)513-2722
    Fax: (905)513-7311
    E-mail: info@bernclare.com
    http://www.overlaytools.com/
    http://www.bernclare.com/
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