TMPGEnc templates - KDVD & more

[akrako1]

I was wondering if anybody has already determined which of the extra-long-play tmpgenc templates work the best... I've downloaded KDVD, but before I spend the 10+ hrs encoding, I'd like to know if it's worth it. I've got a bunch of windows media format documentaries that are long as hell. Each documentary is at least an hour long, and only about 100 megs in wmv format. Obviously, I can encode at a fairly low bitrate, and still maintain the quality that's there... but I'd like to encode to as highest quality as possible.

See: http://kvcd.net/dvd-models.html

These types of 'long-play' tmeplates seem to use utilize some of TMPGEnc's more complicated settings (bit precision, etc, etc) that I don't understand - and aren't changable. But sh*t, approx 6hrs at full D1 resolution! that's pretty damn good!

Are there any other competing formats (like KDVD) that will accomplish the same result? and are maybe quicker? or better?

Also, I use TMPGEnc DVD Author 1.6 for authoring. It accepts vcd-complient files as DVD-complient. Problem solved, kinda. With vcd, I can get many hours on a DVD - but at crappy quality. My question, if I 'unlock' the vcd template, and make some changes (upping bitrate, changing to 2-pass vbr, etc), will the file still be complient? Is tmpgenc dvd author just looking for resolution and fps for complience?

Also, is there anywhere on-line where users like yourself, have modified and posted their own 'customized' templates?

Thanks!!!

[DereX888]

God! Not f***ing Kwaq templates again!!
"KDVD"? Whats wrong with STANDARD dvd templates? :O

I remember shit like KVCD, KSVCD... I guess it was just a matter of time until infamous kwaq fu*k up with dvds...

... but I'd like to encode to as highest quality as possible

Just encode at best quality and use more DVD-Rs, what else!
Blanks don't cost $10/ea anymore in case you haven't noticed...

Sorry m8, but either you want quality, or you want crap (but on a single disc). Theres no other way.


EDIT:
forget about VCD on a DVD if you really must put lots of material on a single disc. Its too low resolution, if you must use anything VCD-alike then use VBR encoding, you'll probably get slightly better quality and maybe even more time at the same file size.
Personally I would never go for resolution lower than SVCD. You can get decent quality picture and low filesize if you use multipass VBR encoding (sorry m8 but 2-pass isn't enough, think 4- 5- or even 6-pass if you use low average bitrae).

[reboot]

Because your source is probably not great .wmv, set up the template, let it run over night and see if you like the quality or not.
This is about as good as it get's with the Full D1 KDVD template.

[bugster]

6 hours on a DVD. That require a bit rate of 1460 kbit/s. Thats pretty damn low. Try using 1/2D1 resolution (352 * 480 for NTSC). If that is not good enough you are going to struggle to get anything better.

BTW, if using a KDVD template, all the settings can be changed, just load 'unlock.mcf' after loading the template. It can be found in the extras directory IIRC.

[Atoning Unifex]

Have to say, I personally use KDVD templates all the time when authoring DVDs. Depending on length of movie I can get at least 2 if not 3 movies onto a single DVD and I think the quality is very good IMHO.

I've tried using KDVD 1/2 D template to get even more but the quality wasn't that great so I just stuck to the full KDVD.

KDVD works fine when authoring the Tmpgenc DVD author, I've never had a problem with it before!

[DereX888]

Have to say, I personally use KDVD templates all the time when authoring DVDs. Depending on length of movie I can get at least 2 if not 3 movies onto a single DVD and I think the quality is very good IMHO.

Yeah, sure...
Please come back here and read your own post the day when you change your current tv for bigger/newer model

[the * dude]

100mb/hour, hell it must already be in a low res format...
i don't see the piont in scaling it up to a full dvd....
best thing is to create xvcd mpgs (48khz audio) & burn!!!

i havent tried it yet my self though but when i make xvcds there pretty good !!! better than a vhs copy, and i doubt your source is gona be as good as dvd!!!!

bugster Posted: Apr 13, 2005 11:36

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6 hours on a DVD. That require a bit rate of 1460 kbit/s. Thats pretty damn low

it well nuff for xvcd, make sure it mpeg 1, not 2 cause its better for lower res i think........... good luck!!!!!!