Whats the best Encoder

[Lord]

I hear that it's Cinema Craft, and i need some help with it
Anyone use Cinema Craft Encoder;
if so, maby you can help me. I use *.avs files to load what type of media i want to load. But for some resion when i load it in Cinema Craft Encoder, it tell me that the movie i want to incode is 10 secs long when i know it's not. If any one can help me or tell me a nother way to do it with Cinema Craft Encoder i would love it. thanks

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[Lord]

o ps this is what my .avs file looks like inside

loadPlugin("C:\MPEG2DEC.dll")
video=mpeg2source("D:\Witch.d2v")
audio=wavsource("D:\Witch.wav")
audiodub(video,audio)
bicubicResize(720,480)

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[Lord]

ummm, no one encodes
heh

[Movieslut]

Yes I do, but I use Tmpgenc

[pinoy2201]

TMPGenc is the best encoder for Frameserveing becuase it almost accepts every frameserve format soooo i suugest you you that but if you still want to use CCE try this download it makes Encoders that wont or has difficulties opening avs file:
http://www.doom9.org/Soft21/mpg/avs_patch.zip

download provided by http://www.doom9.net

[poopyhead]

dunno...at least among the forums...i feel tmpgenc is more widely used....

[speedy]

Why blow a pile of money, and only get just an encoder? Check out Sonic Foundry's Vegas Video III, it will blow you away. Full powered editor/encoder that beats Premier hands down.

[Flying Dutchman]

The "Best encoder" depends a lot on your source material.

Wanna copy VHS, or capture a TV transmission? Go for Panasonic. It has the best built-in noise reduction but is a bit unsharp, and colors are bit greenish.

LSX and CCE are blazing fast, but only average in artefacts and sharpness. Color reproduction is faithful, though.

tMpeg has the most features and is a very good all-rounder with few artefacts and above average sharpness. You can't really go wrong here. It is not too good at VCD bandwidth, but quality improves rapidly if you increase the bps.
Its weak spots are a complete loss of detail in dark portions of the image and a greenish color shift, especially noticeable in skin colors.

BBMpeg is allergic to noisy input and by far the slowest of the lot. It has no built-in filters worth mentioning. But if you feed it with truly good noise-free input, BOY OH BOY! No other encoder I know produces such vibrant, life-like colors and so few artefacts. I'm particularly impressed with the way BBMpeg knows how to handle both complex, detailed still scenes and fast-moving scenes. In the first case, it shows a sharp and detailed image, and in the latter case, it decently blurrs the image a tiny little bit to prevent artefacts from showing up.

But filtering is a "must do".If you combine BBMpeg with an Avisynth script and some VirtualDub filters (especially DNR)there is no encoder to match it.

I recently made a VCD backup of "Titanic" at 1150 kbps, with a slightly reduced audio quality of 128 kbps (joint-stereo). The film fits on two (!) 90-min CDR's and is easily comparable with, if not better than a VHS copy.

Encoding (using Vob2avi as frameserver, with an Avisynth script for resizing, filtering and subtitling) took 19.5 hours on a 800-MHz Celeron. About 75% of the CPU power was needed for the filtering and resizing - the compression speed of the encoder doesn't make much difference then...

[agzz]

try converting the .avs in vfapi first.

[pinoy2201]

The Vfapi Convertor doesnt except avs files only TMPGEnc project files and DVD2AVI project files

[VidGuy]

You don't say what version of CCE - Only 2.5 and below will accept AVS files. Don't try to use 2.62 on AVS files.

[pinoy2201]

VidGuy thanx for brining that up I totaly forgot about that but VidGuy it is 2.50 and below will excpet AVS and VDR files

[Truman]

@ Lord, play the .avs with windows media player, you will get an error message, then you'll know what is wrong. Probably it is a path to the .dll or a source file.
For DVD (since you posted in the dvd ripping forum I assume the source is DVD) to SVCD conversions the Avisynth / CCE combo is definitely the way to go. If you want to make VCD, use Avisynth filters and TMPG.
@agzz, you lose the speed advantage, when you convert the .avs with VFAPI.
@pinoy2201, VFAPI 1.03b accept .avs files.
CCE 2.6 does not accept avs file, no matter if avs_patched or not. CCE 2.5 accept avs files, no need to avs_patch.