Captured it==now how to RECOVER it???

[leaglebob]

Too often now I have recorded 3 movies to a DVD and then get an error when or after recording something else to "fill up" the disc. The first 3 movies all played fine until the last entry so I "Know" the data is on the disk.

How do I recover this data and record it to another DVD?

1. Initially ISO Buster can copy most of these disks to my harddrive but uniformly the audio and video are wildly out of synch. Very often, only the first movie will play while the other movies will just freeze.

2. DVD Shrink uniformly reports that the disk navigation cannot be followed and it cannot copy these failed disks.

3. I will try dvd decrypter next but assume it will have same problems as above..

4. I tried copying the entire disk to a new disk and the same errors appear on the new disk==so I think the initial disk was not physically flawed but rather the disk was written incorrectly and that bad code is dutifully copied to the next disk. How can I copy just the first three movies??

Any suggestions on how to recover failed disks??

Thanks.

[guns1inger]

Somehow you are screwing them up by burning them as multi-session, and probably not finalising them.

I suggest you take this as a life experience, and don't be so cheap in the future. If you can't fill the disk, write off the unused space and live with it.

[leaglebob]

No, finalizing isn't the issue. These disks are failing before finalizing is attempted. Right now I have burned about 300 DVD's all the way to the end==eg, fitting in 6-8-10 minutes at the end to get them full. I have stopped filling at less than 6 minutes to avoid the tedium.

I have 8 dvds with 2-3 movies on them with 45min to 3 hours left to go but the disks are in some manner corrupted. I watched these movies before the disks became corrupted===so is there any program to recover them??? Iso Buster comes real close but as stated it doesn't work all the way.

The same question really applies to RW disks===I record them on desktop units and they play and can be copied onto write once media but I can't copy their material onto my harddrive to extract one movie or to edit commercials out. I get the same out of synch and missing sound problems as when trying to recover failed disks. I'm assuming the question to one will answer the other. DVD shrink is "supposed" to do the job but I have found it works for me only on complete, good, finalized DVD's. Without all those conditions, it scrambles the data during recovery.

I am cheap--and it has lead me to "understanding" some issues better. Only then can I "choose" to be wasteful.

Interesting this forum does not have a recovery section as "everyone" must be facing these issues?

Other ideas??===bobbo.

[guns1inger]

I haven't heard of Shrink being recommended for disks recorded in standalones, but DVD Decrypter has been recommended several times. It also has much more robust error handling than Shrink. You can also instruct it to skip trashed sectors. This may leave gaps, but will recover most of the data.

I know I have never had these issues, although I have had a few originals that were tough to rip. It has usually come down to either DVD Decrypter or DVDxRescue (from the now defunct 321 Studios), some toothpaste, and a lot of patience. I haven't lost one yet, but there are few that have tried my limits.

[leaglebob]

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I tried it and it works on RW disks (atleast for the first 5 minutes allowed on the trial version). It doesn't work on non finalized write once disks--it can't find the IFO file. So, I am inching closer and might get this software just to work on RW disks.

Does anyone know of a program that will open and read non finalized write once disks? Thanks. bobbo.

[leaglebob]

Thanks Gunslinger==we cross posted. Previously, I got no joy with DVD Decryter but I tried it again and it worked better. Seems my test commerical dvd is not liked by many programs==I think it is unusually encoded so I'll stop using it.

Yes==Dvd Decrypter ripped my RW disk and created an .i00 file which I take to be some kind of ISO image? Regardlss--I can't use it to edit out commercials within a movie==so I am still looking.

Dvd Decrypter did not work at all on partially recorded write once disks. No error messages==it just reports the disk as empty.

The "perfect solution" would be to find the same software that is used by the stand alone units. That way non finalized write once disks could be openned up, single movies could be copied to hard drives, commercials taken out, and then re-authored. That would be cool.

Another "good" solution would be for ISO Buster to simply work. Tried it again and Recovered Video with sound in synch and it would play in WinDvD but on trying to edit in mpg-vcr, the image would freeze and not allow edits to take place. Ohhh--so close!!!

There are still $$$$$$ to be made---if I only knew how to program!! Rats!!!!!!!!!!!

PS==Can you confirm you have NEVER had a coaster?? If confirmed, is your experience by way of the system you show in your profile? If confirmed, what media and software program are you using?? I will build my next system JUST LIKE YOURS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!-----(SMILE!)

[guns1inger]

Didn't say I'd never had a coaster, just that by hook or by crook I have been able to backup all my originals, regardless of condition. The coasters I have created have all been media related. I am still using Ritek G04's, and regardless of the poor press thay have been getting at this site and others, I have never had a problems with them. When I started burning I used Princo, and had a pretty good run (lost 2 out 50), then got a bad spindle. Have also tried FujiFilm (TY01) with a 50/50 success rate.

I burn with DVD Decrypter or VSO copytoDVD, and encode with CCE SP 2.67, either through DVD Rebuilder (for backups) or direct for standard encodes.

[leaglebob]

What do you do when you get a coaster??==Rerecord the program when it is on again??? That is what I am doing because I can't recover what I have already captured. That is "acceptable " when it is a movie, but when it is episodes from the History Channel that have had all the commercials edited out, there is alot of work on that coaster that should be recoverable.

I haven't had any trouble backing up an otherwise playable disk. Sonic and Nero copy such disks with no problem.

Well--thanks for your input.

Still wanting to recover good data on a bad disk.====bobbo.