BeAll's going bad after time.

[tgferg67]

I initially had a post complaing about the burn sucess rate of these dics back in Sept 2003.
https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=179019&highlight=
Now they are 1 by 1 going bad over time. Discs that I played 6 months ago suddenly skip/freeze at the 3/4 mark. The dics were even stored in the conventional dvd covers that don't allow any light penetration.

[cyflyer]

so whats the question ?

[Mirot87]

Didnt BeAll have a recall and offer to replace the bad batch? I heard that they even did a back up for people. The disks left their factory without being finished or something. the CDfreaks forum has info on it I think.

[dmagic1]

Yes I believe they did recall those bad batches.

[verchad]

Great, now I gotta go back and check my bealls, I know I've got about 50. Thanks for the heads up.

[lordsmurf]

BeAll has never been great media. This is a common complaint, having bad discs, but it's not a "disappearing" issue. They were always bad.

[joeg04]

but it's not a "disappearing" issue

With BeAll-G40001 4x DVD-R media produced last year, there seems to be a "disappearing" issue, see:
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?p=749848#post749848
and
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?p=893617#post893617

[steve2713]

but it's not a "disappearing" issue

With BeAll-G40001 4x DVD-R media produced last year, there seems to be a "disappearing" issue, see:
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?p=749848#post749848
and
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?p=893617#post893617

Yes you are correct joeg04. It's a common problem with these discs, I've also seen a number of people with similar problems with Princo discs, including myself.

Lordsmurf refuses to accept this fact, though. He will say something about how it's not possible to have discs 'go bad' and then blame it on bad storage or not testing the discs after burning them. Then he'll say something about blue bananas and boogeymen.

But yes, back to reality, rapidly increasing errors on DVDs is a reality, even when stored properly, not the boogeyman.

[Myrdhinn]

I asked a friends brother about this. He's a PHD chemist, ok, chemical engineer, and he siad yes, it's possible that the dye is changing phase or something.. okay it was over my head but the gist is if the formulae was off, chemical contamination, or depending if cheap substitue components of the dye were used then it could possibly alter the state over time. Well he did say possible only.

[lordsmurf]

All dyes with change in time, but ask him about the potential timeline of a vacuum enclosed piece. The decay rate is well into the decades. A few months or couple years will have pretty much zero effect.

It is more likely related to players, or the fact that the discs were always bad, just unnoticed.

I don't find most cdfreaks post very valid. So no, not evidence to me of anything but a couple people panicking over something, and prematurely blaming the least likely culprit. Just the way it goes.

[koolaidwa]

BeALL seems to beall crap lol


what kind of a name is BeAll anyways

[handyguy]

Meritline says:
"- If you are not satisfied with any BeAll DVD blank media you bought from Meritline.com, simply return it in 60 days and you will get your money back!
No restocking fee!

Used by several government organizations like NASA, SEC, FAA etc due to dependable, no-compromise level of quality. "

I sure hope the gov checks their disks too.

[dcsos]

The BeAll truck company has a good flash intro
http://www.beallcorp.com/flash.html
Or Beallls investments
http://www.beallsinc.com/beallsinc/Main
or BeaAll toolshttp://www.bealltool.com/

but BeAll
is not a good DVD blank its made by SAMSUNG
and website herehttp://www.bealldev.com/

just as BTC (Behavioral Technology Corporation Taiwan) is not a good DVD burner

[koolaidwa]

hey, btc are better then u think

with good qulity media and the newest firmwares

[dcsos]

do you have one ? (DVD burnere by BTC?)
I have a BTC monitor thats good..
Did you know what it stood for?

[koolaidwa]

yes i have the 1016im and its works great, but i use my liteon mainly, i also have 2 other burns

2 btc burners
1 liteon (used most)
1 optorite (my fav)