Copyright Music Question

[johnny_boy]

If I create a slideshow for a customer, with music, isn't that violation of copyright? How can I ever sell anything then?

[canadateck]

You cant sell what you dont "Own" or Copys.

[bazooka]

If I create a slideshow for a customer, with music, isn't that violation of copyright? How can I ever sell anything then?

It depends on what the music is and if it is copyrighted, you could get permission to use that music.

[canadateck]

You can buy Royalty Free Stock Music.

[BJ_M]

well if you wrote the music OR it is public domain music (like a lot of acid loops) --- no problem ..

or do you mean the slide show ...

[CloudEmeron]

If I create a slideshow for a customer, with music, isn't that violation of copyright? How can I ever sell anything then?

It is violation of copyright laws. You have to contact the record company and ask for permission. They probably won't go for it. It's lame.

This website will tell you if a particular artist is, well, in the jurisdiction I guess of the RIAA. You'll have better luck with record companies letting you put music in your slideshow if they're not RIAA sponsored.

[canadateck]

Here's One place.
www.editorsmusic.com/index.htm

[BJ_M]

if it is popular music -- you can just about forget it ..

[canadateck]

if it is popular music -- you can just about forget it ..

[johnny_boy]

Why couldn't I just include the price of the song in the product and purchase it off of itunes everytime a buyer used it? I could then just give them the song on the DVD and delete it off of my system. Sound logical anyway. Like transferring sofware. Some songs might be bought over and over again.

[BJ_M]

doesnt work that way .... at all

[BJ_M]

you can buy this to somewhat understand it -- or do a lot of google search

http://www.vasst.com/dvdproducts/caveats_copyright.htm

[canadateck]

Here's Some reading www.riaa.com/issues/licensing/howto.asp

[johnny_boy]

I appreciate the information, but I don't see why I can't give them music they buy. If I buy a CD from the store and sell it to someone, why isn't that they same thing? I buy a song of the Internet and give it to them. I'm not making a profit off of it, but just like the CD, I could.

[canadateck]

I appreciate the information, but I don't see why I can't give them music they buy. If I buy a CD from the store and sell it to someone, why isn't that they same thing? I buy a song of the Internet and give it to them. I'm not making a profit off of it, but just like the CD, I could.

I think Maybe it is against Itunes Terms of Service aslo.

[mrbass]

going along the lines of these...What about 30 second ringtones for cellphones? What's the maximum sample time your allowed to float around? I would host them if they were legal but never can a definite answer one way or another.

[jimmalenko]

I appreciate the information, but I don't see why I can't give them music they buy. If I buy a CD from the store and sell it to someone, why isn't that they same thing? I buy a song of the Internet and give it to them. I'm not making a profit off of it, but just like the CD, I could.

You're not an authorised reseller so therefore you cannot act as the middle-man, regardless of the circumstances regarding profit.

[BJ_M]

i asked about ringtones also -- which is huge profit bussness .... the allow no more than 3 notes (honest, what i was told)

[johnny_boy]

So are you saying that I couldn't sell a CD to someone (say I bought it at Walmart and turn around and sell it.)

[jimmalenko]

So are you saying that I couldn't sell a CD to someone (say I bought it at Walmart and turn around and sell it.)

You can sell it as 2nd-hand, naturally ...

[housepig]

here's why -

when you put the music in the background of a video, you are synchronizing the music to the video (whether anything 'synchs up' is irrelevant, it's the legal term).

to do this with copyrighted music, you need to secure a synch license from the rights-holder. it is spelled out this way in the copyright laws (in the US, at least, and probably any Berne Convention country, which is most of them).

if you use music from an indie band, it could be cheap. if it's music you create, it can be free (since you own the rights). but if you want to use known music from known bands, it can be horrifyingly expensive.... for example, off the top of my head, Chumbawumba got $50,000 for some company using "Tubthumping" in a commercial. so $50K for a 30-second chunk of a one-hit wonder.

if you want to do it legally, it's going to cost you. there is no legal workaround, selling iTunes, selling a cd - it's not the same thing.

[gadgetguy]

If you want to find good music cheap, go to your local pubs that feature live bands. Usually, many of these bands are not "signed" anywhere, but often have some home burned CDs available that they did in a local studio. Talk to the band members either before or after their set. If they have an agent say have a nice day. If not, explain to them what you want to do and offer them a "cut". Put your deal on paper (in plain language) and both sign it. Make sure that you only use their original works, not other peoples cover songs. At some point the band may become "big" and will sign with a recording company. At that point you will probably need to find another music source, but don't lose that piece of paper that you and the band signed.