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  1. Member Sooner02's Avatar
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    Is it possible to find a burner for double-layer burning in DVD-R format?
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    Without DL -R media, what's the point?
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    So far, I'm just finding DL in +R. I was wondering if it's also for -R as well.
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    No.
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    There'sw only one -R DL writer I'm aware of, it's the NEC 3520. I presume there will be others soon to follow. ?????
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    Yes, but where's the media?
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    I only burn in DVD-R, so this is the only reason I'd upgrade to a new burner. What burner is best for DVD-R? And you're telling me that the NEC is the only brand that has DL for DVD-R?
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    Give it time.

    The -R camp is trying to get it right.
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    Someone has to first. In this case, it seems to be NEC. I haven't checked for media, I suspect its even more rare.
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    Originally Posted by Epicurus8a
    Someone has to first. In this case, it seems to be NEC. I haven't checked for media, I suspect its even more rare.
    ..or non-existent. But to give credit where it's due. If I were to look for a - recorder, I would look for NEC.
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    It looks as though I should hold off on replacing the burner for the time being, unless I want a faster burn speed, since the DL isn't really "mainstream" yet.
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    I just saw this link: http://www.nec.se/templates/NEC_NewsMain.asp?id=1949&langu=1&item=5125
    But when I look at the retailers, they don't mention DL for DVD-R?
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    Originally Posted by Sooner02
    I just saw this link: http://www.nec.se/templates/NEC_NewsMain.asp?id=1949&langu=1&item=5125
    But when I look at the retailers, they don't mention DL for DVD-R?
    That is because the -R dual layer spec has not been completed yet to my knowledge.
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    The upcoming pioneer 109 will support DL-R (at 6x!). It should be available soon.
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    Originally Posted by RickTheRed
    The upcoming pioneer 109 will support DL-R (at 6x!). It should be available soon.
    Good info to know. I'm holding off till then.
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    Sooner02,

    I really feel sorry for you after Tuesday's game. USC deserves to be knocked off their pedestal... BTW, my Dad was a Sooner, too.
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    Originally Posted by Epicurus8a
    Sooner02,

    I really feel sorry for you after Tuesday's game. USC deserves to be knocked off their pedestal... BTW, my Dad was a Sooner, too.
    Thanks, I (and many others) expected more from my former school. I guess we'll have to wait for someone else to take care of usc next year.
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    Originally Posted by Epicurus8a
    Sooner02,

    I really feel sorry for you after Tuesday's game. USC deserves to be knocked off their pedestal... BTW, my Dad was a Sooner, too.
    Please don't hijack threads.

    Start your own college football thread in the Off Topic forum if you'd like, but don't discuss it here. Thanks
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    Originally Posted by Capmaster
    Originally Posted by Epicurus8a
    Sooner02,

    I really feel sorry for you after Tuesday's game. USC deserves to be knocked off their pedestal... BTW, my Dad was a Sooner, too.
    Please don't hijack threads.

    Start your own college football thread in the Off Topic forum if you'd like, but don't discuss it here. Thanks
    Sorry.... I didn't intend to threadjack. 2,300 year old guys (like me) tend to be a bit forgetful. And I forgot to include this info I found at the Pioneer website:

    Press Release October 3, 2003

    Pioneer Corporation

    Pioneer Develops DVD-R Dual-layer Recording Technology
    Realizing the recording capacity of up to 8.5GBytes on one side

    October 3, 2003, Tokyo, Japan - Pioneer Corporation has announced today that the company developed the DVD-R dual-layer recording technology. It means that the technological foundation has almost been established to commercialize DVD-R discs, where data up to 8.5GBytes can be recorded on one side.

    The new dual-layer recording technology, adopting the dye-recording-film layer method, has realized a 9.34% jitter with a 17.3% reflection rate on the first layer (L0) of a disc, and an 8.08% jitter with a 19.5% reflection rate for the second layer (L1). This shows almost the same performance as that for dual-layer DVD-ROM discs. It means that DVD-R discs supporting this technology can be played back on most existing DVD players, and DVD recorders supporting this technology will be developed easily.

    In the rapidly growing DVD recorder market, there has been a strong need from users for longer hours, yet high picture quality DVD disc recording. Pioneer's new technology will allow the users to record programs of up to about 4 hours in the SP mode, or programs of up to about 12 hours in the EP mode with DVD recorders.

    The company intends to make a proposal of this technology as a new disc format to the DVD Forum after further improvement in performance.

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    Also, I have assessed myself a $20 fine and made payment via Paypal. Further, I intend to have myself flogged. So you might not be hearing from me for a few days, until I recover...
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