MTR back-up causes DVD2ONEX to fail...

[terryj]

when post processing title is Bourne Supremacy.
Haven't gotten this yet, but apparently its a issue,
as I got an email about it this morning?
anyone tested this yet?

[geezerbuttz]

forgive me for being rude , but....

what the hell is the point of such a message, you tell us nothing.

please give ( alot ) more detail.

[galactica]

so you are dvd2one-ing in the background and MTR'ing at the same time and this causes the dvd2one-ing to crash?

For me i have done this lots, and it works just fine.

[terryj]

Geezer, sorry.
I know your attention span is short...


Galactica,
email I got says
does the following:

MTR rips FINE.
no failures at .vob set.
DVD2ONEX Crashes after 8% of the re-quantum.
been following this thread:
https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=247612&highlight=bourne

will have them try permissions fix, and will try adding (unused items such
as .exe and win folder) and will report back...

so far from what I gather, no other problems
exist on this users machine...

[terryj]

Ok,
users repaired their permissions
and tried again from MTR output,
DVD2Onex crashed this time after 4%,
using Movie Only mode, english track being only
one selected.

He has his MTR rip on an ext FW 160GB,
his re-quantums from DVD2ONE are going to his
120GB int. HD.

Hadn't had a stumper in a while...
The guy who emailed me this is local, so
I'm gonna have to go see this for myself.

[terryj]

ok, just got back.
had him repair permissions,
and try the restore of the
unused items, no avail.
Finally, we went back, trashed the
original output of MTR, and had
MTR re-rip as movie only.
Then, we re-quantumed that
through DVD2ONEX.

that worked for this title.
Sorry if I put out anyone...I was at work
when I got the email, and not having
myself bought the title, I couldn't give him a speedy
response, so I "rang" up you guys.

[WiseWeasel]

Seems like a problem with unreferenced VOBs. MTR 2.6 should take care of this problem...

[thoughton]

I don't think this is a particular problem with Bourne Supremacy. Very rarely (maybe 1 in 50 discs) I get an MTR output folder that has some problem, either it crashes dvd2oneX or it I find after burning that it has some skipping or it freezes halfway through the film. Re-ripping it and using DVD2onex again always fixes it.

It seems to usually (but not always) happen when I'm ripping with MTR while encoding something in the background (i.e. when CPU is at 100% during the rip).

[WiseWeasel]

CPU usage should have no effect on MTR's output. I somehow doubt that's the cause... I've never had a rip that failed with DTOX work after reripping the same disc. We'll need some more confirmation on this issue.

[alkaline]

DVD2ONEX Crashes after 8% of the re-quantum.
.../...
will have them try permissions fix, and will try adding (unused items such
as .exe and win folder) and will report back...

so far from what I gather, no other problems
exist on this users machine...

Sounds a bad RAM bar trouble.

I've had the same problem only when I was using DVD2ONe some months ago.

I tested all the memory bar using DVD2ONE, and testing them one by one.
One of them made DVD2ONE crashed. I removed this bad Memory bar, and now DVD2One works fine.

Hope it could help you.

[geezerbuttz]

YEAH , I HAD AN ISSUE WHERE ALL MY RIPS AND BURNS WERE SCREWED BY BAD MEMORY....EVEN STUFFING A FILE IN STUFFIT GOT SCREWED... FOUND BAD MEMORY , REPLACED IT ( FUNNY IT WAS APPLES STANDARD INSTALLED MEMORY THAT WAS BAD - AGAIN) WITH GOOD PRICED MEMORY , ALL WAS OK.

[Manny C]

How can you determine whether a particular memory chip is bad or not?

[deadsierra]

How can you determine whether a particular memory chip is bad or not?

Remove it and see if your computer works better afterwards.

[alkaline]

How can you determine whether a particular memory chip is bad or not?

Just trying them one by one with specific applications which crached.


:P

[terryj]

alk, mannyc, geezer thanks for your input.
Again, though, memory wasn't the cause
in this particular issue
( this guy has a dual 2.5 G5 with max 8GB of ram!)
and I brought over one of my factory universal releases
( van helsing) and it did it just fine through MTR/DTOX.

I'm going with what WW said...the only other I've HEARD,
not seen, do this that is universal released is Garfield.

[alkaline]

alk, mannyc, geezer thanks for your input.
Again, though, memory wasn't the cause
in this particular issue

Are you sure about that ?

[deadsierra]

alk, mannyc, geezer thanks for your input.
Again, though, memory wasn't the cause
in this particular issue
( this guy has a dual 2.5 G5 with max 8GB of ram!)

The more ram you have, the more chance you have percentage-wise of one chip being bad.

[terryj]

alk, mannyc, geezer thanks for your input.
Again, though, memory wasn't the cause
in this particular issue

Are you sure about that ?

pretty sure.
I did two rips of Van Helsing, one in FULL DISC,
one in Movie only from MTR, DVDTOX processed
both fine. It is a Universal release.

I did one of Bourne Supremacy from MTR as FULL DISC,
DVDTOX stopped processing at 4% on FULL DISC.
Tried movie only in DVDTOX,
stopped at 8%. Went back to MTR, outputted from MTR as
movie only, processed as movie only with DVDTOX, worked
flawlessly. It is also a Universal release.

Trust me (you too Deadsierra) this guy does Corporate Video
Events for a living on his G5, running FCP 4.5HD and DVDSP3.
If he had memory problems before this, he would've seen
it BEFORE now...

[geezerbuttz]

Corporate Video
Events for a living on his G5

if he does this , why is he ripping DVD's?


sounds like DTOX blows on the bad IFO's in ARccOS disks.... DTOX team have been notified... but yet to do anything.

May I suggest a test , rip the disk in full disk mode , go to vitual PC run an app called DVD-washer , run the output from that in DTOX..

this should work

Need to get DTOX updated.

Or

Compress in Popcorn , this handles bad Ifo's

GeezerButtz[/b]

[terryj]

Corporate Video
Events for a living on his G5

if he does this , why is he ripping DVD's?

I dunno...why do we all do it? same reasons I guess,
I've never asked him. Heck I dunno..?
are you implying about his money...?

sounds like DTOX blows on the bad IFO's in ARccOS disks.... DTOX team have been notified... but yet to do anything.

May I suggest a test , rip the disk in full disk mode , go to vitual PC run an app called DVD-washer , run the output from that in DTOX..

this should work

Need to get DTOX updated.

Or

Compress in Popcorn , this handles bad Ifo's

GeezerButtz[/b]

Ok, I'll keep that in mind for next time, but of course, neither of
us have VPC.

[geezerbuttz]

are you implying about his money...?

how on earth did you deduce that comment?

GB

[terryj]

are you implying about his money...?

how on earth did you deduce that comment?

GB

because you said this:

if he does this , why is he ripping DVD's?

as to imply, that once you make a decent living you shouldn't be ripping..
you should be able to afford 2-5 copies of every dvd made...

careful GB, we might start to think you work for the MPAA!

[WiseWeasel]

This thread is going nowhere fast. The problem raised here should be fixed with MTR 2.6 when that gets released. Let's let this die until we can get confirmation of that...

[pixeljammedia]

Communication breakdown... not to put words in anyone's keyboards, but I'm pretty sure geezer thought you were talking about ripping the corporate video your friend creates from a DVD. The comment had nothing to do with what people can afford or what their reasons for ripping DVD content are.

[terryj]

aaah, I see now.
thanks, PJ.

[terryj]

Well, got MTR 2.6 downloaded on friend's computer
over the weekend, and we tried
MTR using Full Disc copy on this release,
it ripped clean and DVDTOX liked the output
enough to re-quantum to full disc back-up.


So WW was on the money re-garding unreferenced VOB
was correct, and MTR 2.6 handled beautifully.

Sucks that Universal is adopting this strategy, but
we now have a confirm that MTR 2.6 handles it just fine.

Thanks WW and GB!

[geezerbuttz]

my pleasure