Network additon, what would I need...

[Denvers Dawgs]

I already have a router and an ethernet cable running to my PS2, but I recently bought TiVo, and need another ethernet cable to connect to that. Instead of running another cable, how could I split the original one to the PS2, to have 1 go to the PS2 and the other to TiVo?

[bazooka]

If you split the cable, then you get a weaker signal.

Just run another ethernet cable from the router to the tivo.

[Denvers Dawgs]

Don't they have a bridge or some sort of 1 ethernet in 3 out, almost like a router??

[bazooka]

There are bridges, yes, but why split and weaken your signal?

Why are you so hesitant to run another cable from the router?

If you are that concerned, go with a wireless network.

[Denvers Dawgs]

I would rather not have to purchase a whole new network...I already have a router. How bad would the signal be if I'm only using on componant at a time. won't be running tivo, and ps2 simultaniously

[bazooka]

The signal would be just fine using both at the same time.

The point I was trying to get across is if you split the cable, the signal degrades.

There is no harm is running another cable from the router to the other device.

I run two computers and soon to be a third computer at the same time from the router.

There is no need to buy a switch or a hub.

[Capmaster]

A 10B-T ethernet hub is cheap, and it doesn't degrade the signal. You can buy a 5-port D-Link hub for about $10 and another $5 or 6 for shipping:

http://www.pcbay.net/dde105pethub.html

[Denvers Dawgs]

thanx Cap.....

[bazooka]

A 10B-T ethernet hub is cheap, and it doesn't degrade the signal. You can buy a 5-port D-Link hub for about $10 and another $5 or 6 for shipping:

http://www.pcbay.net/dde105pethub.html

Cap, that is not entiely true.

Anytime you split a cable, the signal degrades.

Look at coaxial cable, the more you split it, the worse the signal.

If you use a hub, the signal is shared between the two devices.

If he just ran another wire from the router, each device gets dedicated bandwidth.

[Capmaster]

A 10B-T ethernet hub is cheap, and it doesn't degrade the signal. You can buy a 5-port D-Link hub for about $10 and another $5 or 6 for shipping:

http://www.pcbay.net/dde105pethub.html

Cap, that is not entiely true.

Anytime you split a cable, the signal degrades.

Look at coaxial cable, the more you split it, the worse the signal.

If you use a hub, the signal is shared between the two devices.

If he just ran another wire from the router, each device gets dedicated bandwidth.

Yeah I guess you're right. I was thinking of my repeater hubs I bought to prevent lock-up. They're a little more expensive, but they provide a 1:1 signal transfer to all ports

[sterno]

Bad information is worse than none at all. A hub or switch is NOTHING like a coax or phone line splitter and does not degrade the signal. You're not splitting a signal, you're making copies.

A hub or switch is a network device that lets other network devices talk to each other. They receive a signal on a port and transmit a copy on one or more other ports. The only thing that's shared in a switch is the total bandwidth if you uplink to another switch or router, which is why many high-end 100Mbit switches have a gigabit port for uplink. A hub is a little worse because it sends a copy of everything to all connected devices so only one device can actively transmit at a time.

I seriously doubt that a TiVo will use any significant amount of bandwidth - after all, these things were made to use modems. The outbound cable/DSL connection would be a much greater bottleneck than the sharing of a 100Mbit link (or a 10Mbit link) by two devices. The TiVo wouldn't even be operating on the network continuously.

[bazooka]

Bad information is worse than none at all. A hub or switch is NOTHING like a coax or phone line splitter and does not degrade the signal. You're not splitting a signal, you're making copies.

A hub or switch is a network device that lets other network devices talk to each other. They receive a signal on a port and transmit a copy on one or more other ports. The only thing that's shared in a switch is the total bandwidth if you uplink to another switch or router, which is why many high-end 100Mbit switches have a gigabit port for uplink. A hub is a little worse because it sends a copy of everything to all connected devices so only one device can actively transmit at a time.

I seriously doubt that a TiVo will use any significant amount of bandwidth - after all, these things were made to use modems. The outbound cable/DSL connection would be a much greater bottleneck than the sharing of a 100Mbit link (or a 10Mbit link) by two devices. The TiVo wouldn't even be operating on the network continuously.

I did not give out bad info. I know what a hub and a switch do.

A hub shares bandwidth between devices, and is totally unnecessary.

A switch is unnecessary as well.

If you install a hub, then you are splitting the signal.

I only mentioned the coax as an example.

I know they are unrelated.

You were the only one that mentioned a switch.

I never said a switch shared bandwidth.

You are bringing up irrelevant things.

The gigabit port is also irrelevant.

The router already does what he needs, so you go right ahead and help him waste his money.

[stiltman]

Um I'll add my 2 cents

Spliting the cable from 4 pair to 2 pairs isn't really anything I would do.

If that's what you're talking about?

Basically pins 4,5,7,8 are not used by the 10/100 Ethernet. You can use these like you would for 1,2,3,6. Just look up a guide for the pins connection and do the same with the other. I have only do it once and it work, but I was using a punch down block to make my connection..What did you have in mind? Do you know you can buy a RJ45 splitter at like Radio Shack that will do it for you?

[ViRaL1]

You can get a Netgear5-port 10/100 switch for $10 after rebate. While you're technically splitting the bandwidth coming through the cable, you shouldn't notice significant degradation. It will also give you extra ports if you need to add other devices in the area later. While wireless is an option, you'll spend considerably more and even with one of the 'Super G' setups, I doubt you'll see any improvement over wired; not to mention that your performance will probably much less than the rated wireless speeds if you're transferring video or other data that doesn't compress quickly.



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