can i burn more than 60mins to dvd?

[kdx 125]

hi all,

sorry for the newbie questions. i want to burn over an hour's worth of video - nearly 2 hours but i cant seem to do it. i currently have an hour which i have burned ok but because the mpeg2 video clips come to nearly 4gb in size, nero xpress 2 wont let me burn anymore. if blank dvd's store 2 hours of video, how do i do this without exceeding the 4.7gb limit?

many thanks for your help,

steve.

[thor300]

Lower the bitrate, half bitrate = twice as long video on disk. www.videohelp.com/calc.htm

[Bullworth]

Well for starters what program are you using to encode the program? Regardless of what it is one thing you should do is to lower the bitrate. I''ve fit four hours of quality video on a 4.7G disc.
You could store even more, the reason the DVDs say they can store up to 2 hours max is because its a calculation based on the maximum bitrate allowed by the DVD standard.
Also take full advantage of the Tools section. There are tools that will tell you what your maximum bitrate should be to achieve a certain target size and some of the programs like TMPGEnc/DVD Author will even do this for you when you chose the disc size.

[jimmalenko]

the reason the DVDs say they can store up to 2 hours max is because its a calculation based on the maximum bitrate allowed by the DVD standard.

really ?

I didn't know that. Isn't max combined bitrate for DVDs 10.08MBits ?

[Bullworth]

I beleive you're right. I think one of the main reasons they market it this way is so people unfamiliar with video encoding think that in order to get the best quality you have to encode at the highest bitrate, hence the more discs you have to buy to store your video. May have been true in the beginning but with DVD prices so low now and with dual-layer discs available using a constant max bitrate soon won't be an issue at all.

[ZippyP.]

Using a bitrate calculator, for 2 hours on a DVD I get video @ 4800 kbps and audio @ 224 kbps.

The 2 hour figure sounds pretty arbitrary to me.

[jimmalenko]

the reason the DVDs say they can store up to 2 hours max is because its a calculation based on the maximum bitrate allowed by the DVD standard.

really ?

I didn't know that. Isn't max combined bitrate for DVDs 10.08MBits ?

I beleive you're right. I think one of the main reasons they market it this way is so people unfamiliar with video encoding think that in order to get the best quality you have to encode at the highest bitrate, hence the more discs you have to buy to store your video. May have been true in the beginning but with DVD prices so low now and with dual-layer discs available using a constant max bitrate soon won't be an issue at all.

By my calculations, a 2 hour movie @ 10.08MBits would take up 8.859 GB.

[US Guy]

Just for the sake of responding to the question. I have been creating DVD's containing roughly about 420 minutes each disc. The episodes are encoded at 352x480 @ 1350 - mpg1. (I think I should be able to do well @ 1150 since they are mpg1). The visual quality is not the greatest to some people but they look fine to me on my 50".

[ZippyP.]

The episodes are encoded at 352x480 @ 1350 - mpg1.

I believe the spec is mpeg2 for 1/2 DVD resolution, check "what is dvd" over there <-<-<-.

At 1350 kbps the quality won't be too bad if you use 2 pass VBR...settings of say 200 min, 1350 avg, 4000 max.

[US Guy]

I believe the spec is mpeg2 for 1/2 DVD resolution, check "what is dvd" over there <-<-<-.

Take a look at TDA before you try to show off...

And did I say I was doing mpeg2? I clear said mpg1.

You might be way better than me in these things. But I am merely stating what I could do.

What you like to and could do is none of my business.

[jimmalenko]

Why so defensive ?

Zippy simply pointed out that you were encoding to a non-standard resolution, that's all.

[US Guy]

Why so defensive ?

Zippy simply pointed out that you were encoding to a non-standard resolution, that's all.

If you open your eyes and brains to read his post carefully, he was suggesting that I did not know what I was talking about and he was pointing me to the left where the guides are.

Please mind your own BS for business if you would.

[Shocker Milwaukee]

What a punk, he is!

[US Guy]

Have a life !!!

No sht SHOCKs me !!!

BTW, STFU , because you like to get more post counts. Just keep sticking a word or 2 without any concrete substances....

[Shocker Milwaukee]

Yeah!

Check out my big, fat post count!

[jimmalenko]

Why so defensive ?

Zippy simply pointed out that you were encoding to a non-standard resolution, that's all.

If you open your eyes and brains to read his post carefully, he was suggesting that I did not know what I was talking about and he was pointing me to the left where the guides are.

Please mind your own BS for business if you would.

If you read Zippy's post that way, then so be it. I can be fairly sure he didn't mean it to sound patronising. He was simply pointing out that the resolution you were using didn't conform to any standards (in case you didn't know).

Believe what you want but you're making more of it than it is.

[US Guy]

How Not To Post

Admit that you're wrong.

[jimmalenko]

How Not To Post

Admit that you're wrong.

your point ?

[US Guy]

How Not To Post

Admit that you're wrong.

your point ?

Read the original question and read my original response. I was only stating that one could put more than 60 minutes of video on to a DVD disc. That was the question and I even clearly stated that I was encoding mpeg1....

Long story short... hence, you have problem comprehending, it is never too late to "admit that you are wrong"

Funny the quoter does not practise what he/she preaches

[jimmalenko]

Read the original question and read my original response. I was only stating that one could put more than 60 minutes of video on to a DVD disc. That was the question and I even clearly stated that I was encoding mpeg1....

correct. no argument here.

where's your beef ?

[US Guy]

Read the original question and read my original response. I was only stating that one could put more than 60 minutes of video on to a DVD disc. That was the question and I even clearly stated that I was encoding mpeg1....

correct. no argument here.

Finally...
and this is my last post to this topic.

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[jimmalenko]

Read the original question and read my original response. I was only stating that one could put more than 60 minutes of video on to a DVD disc. That was the question and I even clearly stated that I was encoding mpeg1....

correct. no argument here.

Finally...
and this is my last post to this topic.

***** ******* *****
***** *****
***** THE END *****
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***** ******* *****

[kdx 125]

ha...thanks guys for all your help....i have now reduced bitrate from the default 8000kbps to 4500kbps and got my 2 hours on....and the quality is not that much different from the 8000kbps!! i'm using studio 9 to encode my mpeg2 files...i think the default is set to 8000kbps!

thanks for your help.

steve.

[Baldrick]

please post in the newbie forum if you are a newbie.

[kdx 125]

please post in the newbie forum if you are a newbie.

ok, no problems!!