going into DVD realm...

[CNT]

But posts regarding how to convert to DVD are allowed here.

So, I hope I am OK to ask about going into DVD in this thread.

OK, I have created VCD using TMPGEnc. Now I see the big difference using TMPGEnc and the horrible Pinnacle S/W. The VCD looks much like the VHS too.

Now, I like to go into DVD for the sake of having more in DVD than CD. I have two CDs for my first steps, and I rather have one disc (DVD) for this one and also would like to have longer hours on a disc for my next steps.

My question is what do I need to use to create DVD (would that be VDO or VBO or something?)? Please list the S/W to use, starting from original captured AVI. I would need to cut the orginal AVI, then re-save it as AVI, then convert to DVD format. Maybe I could skip the step of re-saving as AVI and go directly from editing the original AVI to save as DVD format? I can see that TMPGEnc can create DVD files, but I need to do editing on the original AVI, that's the question (TMPGEnc doesn't have editing). I haven't read around in here about DVD (a little on lordsmit website).

I use Nero to copy video files onto DVD, is that what VideoHelp.com would suggest?

I don't have DVD burner yet. I am waiting for LiteOn to come out with the next generation model (Dual Layer model). That way it's little faster plus would bundle with Nero S/W for DVD.

I know I should read about DVD in here first, just want to ask a little about what S/W to use for creating DVD... Thanks.

Chuck

[redwudz]

If you are starting with an AVI file, I would download Virtualdub. It's a simple editor for AVI. It also has many other capabilities, such as filtering and frameserving to TMPGEnc encoder. Lots of tutorials to the left for it.

With frameserving in Virtualdub, you don't need to take up space with an intermediate file, you can send the VD output directly to the encoder.

Next you need a MPEG encoder. I like TMPGEnc encoder.

After that an authoring program. TMPGEnc DVD Author is my favorite. It can also burn to DVD.

[jimmalenko]

If you are starting with an AVI file, I would download Virtualdub. It's a simple editor for AVI. It also has many other capabilities, such as filtering and frameserving to TMPGEnc encoder. Lots of tutorials to the left for it.

With frameserving in Virtualdub, you don't need to take up space with an intermediate file, you can send the VD output directly to the encoder.

Next you need a MPEG encoder. I like TMPGEnc encoder.

After that an authoring program. TMPGEnc DVD Author is my favorite. It can also burn to DVD.

Solid advice.

VirtualDub to edit, then save to an intermediate AVI file or frameserve directly to TMPGEnc Plus. Author and burn using TMPGEnc DVD Author.

I like it !

[CNT]

VirtualDub to edit, then save to an intermediate AVI file or frameserve directly to TMPGEnc Plus.

I want to make sure I am following the language in here. When said "save to an intermediate AVI file", does this mean save as regular AVI? Such as steps taken from menubar File, "Save as AVI... F7" which then brings up "Save AVI 2.0 file" and Save as type: Audio-Video Interleave (*.avi). Correct?

This (VirtualDub) is what I was using recently and like it a lot already. Odd is that when I took a (original captured) 17.8G AVI, use VirtualDub only to cut two ends (few seconds of VHS overlap blurriness), then "Save as AVI..." right away, it then saves as a 121G AVI. LOL. Good thing I have 150G HDDs (two WD 80G 8MB)! I had to move other AVI files to other partitions. I hope I won't need to buy bigger HDD when I buy a DVD burner (but even with DVD, 121G aren't going to work either).

Where can I find to read about (or how to) do "frameserving"? I see that term in here, yet don't know what that is.

Then I use TMPGEnc only to create MPG (for VCD). Amazing that the MPEG then is only 700MB (from 121G)!?!?

I will use the same path for DVD (TMPGEnc DVD Author). How long does the Trail version last?

Lastly... (forgive me for asking enough questions), as for MPEG for VCD, what to create for DVD?

Chuck

[jimmalenko]

I want to make sure I am following the language in here. When said "save to an intermediate AVI file", does this mean save as regular AVI? Such as steps taken from menubar File, "Save as AVI... F7" which then brings up "Save AVI 2.0 file" and Save as type: Audio-Video Interleave (*.avi). Correct?

Yep.

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This (VirtualDub) is what I was using recently and like it a lot already. Odd is that when I took a (original captured) 17.8G AVI, use VirtualDub only to cut two ends (few seconds of VHS overlap blurriness), then "Save as AVI..." right away, it then saves as a 121G AVI. LOL. Good thing I have 150G HDDs (two WD 80G 8MB)! I had to move other AVI files to other partitions. I hope I won't need to buy bigger HDD when I buy a DVD burner (but even with DVD, 121G aren't going to work either).

You'll find that it is preferable to frameserve if possible, because then you don't need to save to an AVI file. You would only save to an AVI file if you wanted to do the encoding at a later point in time and not straight away. You'll find that the file was 121GB because you had both video and audio uncompressed. You need to set both video and audio to Direct Stream Copy. Either that or use a DV codec if you are going to use Full Processing Mode.

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Where can I find to read about (or how to) do "frameserving"? I see that term in here, yet don't know what that is.

Frameserving is just a fancy word for "streaming" the output from one program to another directly (on the fly) without having to save out to an inbetween file. There is a guide for using virtualDub for this purpose here.

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Then I use TMPGEnc only to create MPG (for VCD). Amazing that the MPEG then is only 700MB (from 121G)!?!?

I will use the same path for DVD (TMPGEnc DVD Author). How long does the Trail version last?

Trial is 30 days. You still need to use TMPGEnc Plus to create your MPEG-2 file, then TMPGEnc DVD Author to convert this MPEG-2 file into IFO, BUP and VOB files, add menus, etc etc.

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A lot of the info I've provided can be found in the guides section to the left. I suggest you sift your way through that section, and try a few things.

[CNT]

Frameserving is just a fancy word for "streaming" the output from one program to another directly (on the fly) without having to save out to an inbetween file. There is a guide for using virtualDub for this purpose here.

I did all the steps and it didn't work. I tried all the fix, but the msvcr70.dll file (couldn't find one through the link to the Google.com). I was looking forward to do the frameserving. I have 1G RAM and 2500 Barton CPU, etc. Any other suggestions? Maybe it's time for me to FORMAT my HDD and reinstall the XP Pro?

Chuck

[jimmalenko]

Frameserving is just a fancy word for "streaming" the output from one program to another directly (on the fly) without having to save out to an inbetween file. There is a guide for using virtualDub for this purpose here.

I did all the steps and it didn't work. I tried all the fix, but the msvcr70.dll file (couldn't find one through the link to the Google.com). I was looking forward to do the frameserving. I have 1G RAM and 2500 Barton CPU, etc. Any other suggestions? Maybe it's time for me to FORMAT my HDD and reinstall the XP Pro?

Chuck

I think you must have done something wrong. That guide works.

[Matt D]

Chuck- Did you run "Auxsetup.exe" in the Virtual Dub folder? Run this program and one of the choices is "install dll's needed to frameserve" or something like that.
If that doesn't fix your problem, you are doing something wrong I'm afraid.

[CNT]

I did run that "Auxsetup.exe" and nothing! I get to the part where it ask to save the dummy file name, make up a name ("VCD1") and then the next screen is where it supposed to process. All I see is all zeros and nothing. I leave it alone for an hour and nothing. NO CPU or HDD activities.

Like I said, maybe I need a FORMAT (and I want to FORMAT soon anyway).

Chuck

[jimmalenko]

I did run that "Auxsetup.exe" and nothing! I get to the part where it ask to save the dummy file name, make up a name ("VCD1") and then the next screen is where it supposed to process. All I see is all zeros and nothing. I leave it alone for an hour and nothing. NO CPU or HDD activities.

OK. Sit down, and I'll walk you through it.

This window appear, click Start



Save the handler as video.vdr.avi, this file will just become a very small "dummy" file that "points" to virtualdub.



This window should appear, and it should say AVIFile only under Frameclients installed:
Don't Stop it until you have encoded the video.

I'm guessing that you get this far and there are just the three zeros.

Read on:

Now launch your favourite encoder and you should be able to open the "dummy" video avi.
If the encoder gives you an error when opening the video.vdr.avi you may have to restart windows after you installed the Virtualdub handler.
If TMPGenc gives you an error when opening the video.vdr.avi read below here in the problems section.



Done.



Problems
If the frameserve does not work try:

Copy this msvcr70.dll to your WIN/SYSTEM32 folder and restart Virutaldub.

or/and

Install the readavs.dll vfapi plugin, extract all files to a folder and run the install.bat.

or/and

Install the ProxyOn by doubleclicking on the proxyon.reg that you find the virtualdub folder aviproxy.
Note! Remember to click on ProxyOff after you have frameserved done.



or/and

If TMPGenc gives you an error when opening the video.vdr.avi click on Option->Enviromental settings.
And this window appear, click on VFAPI plugin and right click on the DirectShow Multimedia File Reader and select Higher priority.
Now try to open video.vdr.avi.
Remember to after you have encoded the video.vdr.avi to Lower priority on the Directshow Multimedia File Readear to avoid problem open other videos.

My guess is that you start the frameserver but you don't open the file in TMPGEnc.

[CNT]

My guess is that you start the frameserver but you don't open the file in TMPGEnc.

Correct I thought the frameserver was support to create the file AND "FINISH IT", but interesting that it just create the file and leave it just like that. I finally got it, I go on from there and made the MPG file. Maybe the editor should add a line like "while with that screen open and the zeros showing, you must contiune with opening the TMPGEnc..." instead of "Now launch your favourite encoder..." which sound like after the dummy file is finished, then go on... So, after it creates the MPG file, I just click the "X" on the corner to close the windows.

Anyway, thank you VERY MUCH. It's very nice editor and program. I am going to try to explore some more out of this. Wonder what's all those on market (and costing so much money) not compare with what's in here. Looks like "the best kept secret"

Chuck

[jimmalenko]

Maybe the editor should add a line like "while with that screen open and the zeros showing, you must contiune with opening the TMPGEnc..." instead of "Now launch your favourite encoder..." which sound like after the dummy file is finished, then go on...

I dunno....

I think

Now launch your favourite encoder and you should be able to open the "dummy" video avi.

pretty much spells it out.