What is the difference between DVD-R and DVD+R?

[sacred ff]

I'm going to buy a DVD burner soon, and I want to know what the difference between DVD-R and DVD+R.

Also, can all DVD burners burn DVD-R and DVD+Rs?

[gitreel]

+r will burn faster and was the first out of the gate with dl burning.

-r is said to be a little more compatible.

I have used both, and I prefer +r because of the faster writing speed.

Most of the newer burners will burn both formats. I bought mine for about $80 at Fry's Electronics.

[sacred ff]

thanks.

[gitreel]

No problem.

[cor1]

DVD-R and DVD-RW
DVD-R/W was the first DVD recording format released that was compatible with standalone DVD Players.
DVD-R is a non-rewriteable format and it is compatible with about 93% of all DVD Players and most DVD-ROMs.
DVD-RW is a rewriteable format and it is compatible with about 79% of all DVD Players and most DVD-ROMs.
DVD-R/W supports single side 4.37 computer GB* DVDs(called DVD-5) and double sided 8.75 computer GB* DVDs(called DVD-10).
These formats are supported by DVDForum.

DVD+R and DVD+RW
DVD+R/W has some "better" features than DVD-R/W such as lossless linking and both CAV and CLV writing.
DVD+R is a non-rewritable format and it is compatible with about 88% of all DVD Players and most DVD-ROMs.
DVD+RW is a rewritable format and is compatible with about 79% of all DVD Players and most DVD-ROMs.
DVD+R/W supports single side 4.37 computer GB* DVDs(called DVD-5) and double side 8.75 computer GB* DVDs(called DVD-10).
These formats are supported by the DVD+RW Alliance.

Go to this page:
https://www.videohelp.com/dvdwriters
and check there if the DVD writer you intend to buy is both +R and -R

Hope this helps.

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I just want to know one more thing: Can all DVD burners burn both DVD+Rs and DVD-Rs? Or do some only burn DVD-Rs and some only DVD+Rs?

[Baldrick]

I just want to know one more thing: Can all DVD burners burn both DVD+Rs and DVD-Rs? Or do some only burn DVD-Rs and some only DVD+Rs?

https://www.videohelp.com/dvdwriters
check under Write support column, most new writers can burn both formats

[sacred ff]

thanks for all your help everyone!

[waheed]

A couple of years ago, you could only get dvd burners that burned either dvd+r or dvd-r. but that has all changed now, all newer dvd burners these days can burn to both dvd+/-r.

but still check that the dvd burner you purchase burns both formats. you never know, those single format burners may still be around. you may even want to consider getting the dual layer burner so you can burn DL disks in the future.

[DeleriumMDK]

Yeah if I was in the market for one, 8X write speed (maybe 12) and DL burning would be something I'd look into since the technology has advanced so quickly and seems to be doing alright. I'm using a dual format 4X NEC ND-1300A for now, but once a 16X and DL burner is available I believe I'll replace this drive. Has anyone heard anything about when 16X single layer and 4X DL burning will be possible? I saw an early 4X DVD+RDL test but results weren't very encouraging a few months ago.

[smearbrick1]

A couple of years ago, you could only get dvd burners that burned either dvd+r or dvd-r. but that has all changed now, all newer dvd burners these days can burn to both dvd+/-r.

A couple of years ago it was only cost effective to buy DVD-R drives, and they were still 300.00 for a 2x (Pioneer A03).

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what is DL?

[freestyler]

DL = Dual Layer

[CNT]

I understand the DVD +/- war, on the surface. I am also aware that most DVD burners can do both. No problem, buy one today!

The situation I have is I want to buy a DL burner, so I have it in the future. I am type of guy that buy one thing and keep it for a long time. So, buying a DL burner would be wise for me. That's not the question...

With the latest on market so far is DL @ 2.4X and some 4X. I am questioning if DVD-R would ever have DL discs? I am seeing DVD+R9, what about DVD-R9 or something with DVD-R DL?

I am just waiting for the next generation LiteOn DL to come out (because I want a faster DL), a 4X or above would be good, not 2.4X. It would be possible that a fix would be in the next gen, plus I want a LiteOn because it would come bundled with Nero DVD S/W.

Chuck[/b]

[jimmalenko]

Has anyone heard anything about when 16X single layer and 4X DL burning will be possible?

It is now.

Pioneer DVR-108

[Nilfennasion]

There will eventually be DVD-R DL discs, but I wouldn't place any hopes on them to be more compatible with existing equipment than DVD+R DL. DL is very much in its infancy, and it is entirely possible to burn a DL disc that can't even be read in the burner that originally made it.

I personally recommend LG burners. LG have treated me incredibly well, and flashing their drives to RPC-1 status is so incredibly easy that I could get my technophobic grandmother to do it. If you have a little patience, however, I'd wait until drives that do DL discs at 4X or higher become more common. By that time, the media will be cheaper, as will the drives. The first law of computer hardware is the longer you hold out, the better the deal you get.

[indolikaa]

Another vote for LG burners. Their Super Multi -4082B kicks ass!

[jimmalenko]

The first law of computer hardware is the longer you hold out, the better the deal you get.

... and the more out of date it is when you finally get it.

[ZippyP.]

The first law of computer hardware is the longer you hold out, the better the deal you get.

... and the more out of date it is when you finally get it.

And the closer we will be to a different format altogether, like blu-ray.

[Nilfennasion]

Another vote for LG burners. Their Super Multi -4082B kicks ass!

Never tried that model, but I'm glad I'm not the only one for whom only the best will do.

Those who believe that the blu-ray media will wipe out DVD-Video before DL burners are available in 4X, 6X, or even 8X are dreaming. First, the companies are going to have to agree to a standard. They haven't learned the lesson from the mutual failure of SACD and DVD-Audio. Toshiba and Sony seem determined to butt heads over the next-gen format, which is the exact opposite of how they got DVD-Video to become a universal standard.

Now if the companies sit down and agree to a singular format, and promote it in the same market-savvy manner as they did DVD-Video, it will eventually take off. But they have to be in it for the long haul.

[lordsmurf]

I'm sick of seeing "+R is faster" as an argument. The max discs made are 8x for each. The 12x DVD+R do not exist (please show me some). Burning faster than write strategy is reckless.

[CNT]

I'm sick of seeing "+R is faster" as an argument. The max discs made are 8x for each. The 12x DVD+R do not exist (please show me some). Burning faster than write strategy is reckless.

As I mention, I wasn't bringing up the -/+ war. Anyway, didn't know that 12X not exist yet, I thought they did? I am aware that DVD+R MAX will be 16X. Remember when CD-ROM was hot at 40X, now there are 52X (48X is plenty for me).

I just want the DVD-R DL just to have it, rather than not have it. I feel I may never use DL, but when I do (and that happens often), I would have it then I have a (retail) Jesus movie that is 4 hours and it's on one DVD disc... neat!

Chuck

ADDED : I checked and you're right, there are no 12X DVD disc (only the drive).

ADDED : I remember some time ago, I said to myself... CD-R is nice to have, but today it is a must. So, today, DVD-R (DL too as well) is nice, it will be a must in matter of days

[waheed]

I would also love to upgrade to DL drives. though i will hold off till the 2nd or 3rd generation of drives are out. DL is still in its infancy so there will be problems. the features that i want in DL drive is:

Min 8X DL burning
Bitsetting
CAV Drive

Ive read some good reviews on the Nec 3500 for those currently looking for a DL burner (not me at the moment), a 16X Burner with 4X DL burning capabilities. it is CAV for reading and writing though the specs also say CLV for writing to DL DVD+R, and DVD-RW

no mention of bitsettting though.

See the following link for specs:

http://www.nec.co.uk/DVD_RW_ND3500.aspx

[CNT]

Min 8X DL burning
Bitsetting
CAV Drive

Ive read some good reviews on the Nec 3500 for those currently looking for a DL burner (not me at the moment), a 16X Burner with 4X DL burning capabilities. it is CAV for reading and writing though the specs also say CLV for writing to DL DVD+R, and DVD-RW

http://www.nec.co.uk/DVD_RW_ND3500.aspx

I don't know what is CAV or CLV (yet), but finally there's a 16X and 4X DL! THANKS for bringing this up, I may be tempt to get it soon.

As you mention you want Min 8X DL burning, well, that would be nice too Maybe by before Christmas 2004, 8X DL would be out (and then CD-R would be 48X). It shouldn't hurt for me to wait for it as well!

The most important thing that I felt worth waiting for is + AND - DL drive. I don't get it when it says "Launching the first 16x dual layer +/- DVD" but it doesn't have DVD-R9 (only the +R9)?

Go, LiteOn, Go!!

Chuck