OGM to SVCD easy Guide*

[Anonymoususer]

First off to begin with, you will be creating an SVCD with Multiple Audio Tracks and Selectable Subtitles. Why an SVCD ? because VCD's don't have those features or the capability. If your DVD Player supports SVCD's then you should be able to play them perfectly without any glitches, mine does so that is why I decided to use this method that I working my ass off figured out, but in fact it was very simple.

If you don't know what Selectable Subtitles, SVCD, or what an OGM is please read a little bit about it before you begin so you can get the basic concept of how and what your doing.

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What is an OGM ?
How to play an OGM ?

http://ld-anime.faireal.net/guide/ogm-en
http://abma.x-maru.org/faq/annotated/formats.avi.php

A very nice free OGM Player that comes with required filters to play OGM's correctly

http://www.corecoded.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=tcmp_home&file=downloadnow

What is SVCD ?
What are the features ?
Is it better than VCD ?
Can my DVDPlayer play them ?

https://www.videohelp.com/svcd

What are Selectable CVD & SVCD Subtitles ?
Can my DVD Player play them ?

https://www.videohelp.com/faq.htm#svcdsubs

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Step#1:- Separating the audio from the video using VirtualDubMod.


Download VirtualDubMod from here:-

http://www.softnews.ro/public/cat/11/2/2/11-2-2-29.shtml

Open up your OGM file in VirtualDubMod, by clicking File, Open Video File. Then click on Streams, and then Stream List.
This section shows you what the OGM is containing or what it's made off.
You SHOULD or SHOULD NOT, see hopefully 2 Audio Streams, and 1 text stream.
Select the 1st Audio Track and on the right side Click the button Demux, and preferably save it as Audio [01].
Do the same thing for the 2nd Audio and save it as Audio [02] if you like.
Now you have "extracted" both the audio tracks from your OGM file and have them separated.
Play them to see if they work.


*Some information about the Audio that you have "extracted". It should be saved as a .OGG file, also .OGG files have variable bitrate and superb sound*

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*Before you begin encoding & converting which you are doing separtely, the best way to calculate and maximize accuracy and fit everything on your CD without any problems I suggest using a program called FITCD. http://shh.dvdboard.de/

Since you have 2 Audio streams you can enter the values and determine which wil be the best suitable Video Bitrate & Audio Bitrate. Why use this program you say...? because if your going to be using this guide everything in the end will add up, so if you don't want to go over the limit, you might end up creating a an MPG which you might not be able to burn. So I suggest using this program.*

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Step#2:- Converting the Audio.

My audio conversion might not be considered the best, BUT their are many guides out their to convert .OGG files to mp2.
I used a software called Goldwave.
Click the link to download a Demo Version :-

http://www.goldwave.com/release.html

Opened the .OGG audio in it, and then saved it as a Wav.
Then I loaded the Wav in a program called HeadAche and converted the Wav to mp2 using the guide from Doom.

http://www.doom9.org/mp2-hac3.htm

Do the same thing for the second Audio Stream.
Hopefully it shouldn't take that long, and now you have 2 audio streams that have been converted to mp2.
Play them to see if they work.


*I honestly don't care about the Audio quality, as long as it plays good, it's fine with me, in addition I actually didn't know that SVCD's don't accept WAV or even mp3 audio tracks, and had to find out the hard way, so for the newbies here's some helpful info for you.*

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Step#3:- Converting the Video.

I use TMPGEnc to create the OGM to Mpeg2, because in my opinion it is the best program available due to the fact that it is very flexible, easy to use and produces great results.

To download a trail version and some how to convert various types of videos using TMPGEnc click the link below...

https://www.videohelp.com/tools?tool=1#comments

Make sure you have a back up of your OGM before you begin just to be on the safe side.
Also make sure you have OGM Filters installed.
Change the extension of your .OGM to .AVI.
You can load it up directly IF you can.
If the TMPGEnc wizard pops up, just close it, and load the ".AVI" directly by clicking the Browse button on the right side in the Video Source column, and also select ES on the right side, ES stands for Elemantry Stream, usually refers to video, and in the audio source area clear everything to be sure your only converting Video, and it should come out to m2v format.

If you don't like to get too technical, the best way I can suggest is to load up your file, through the wizard and set it all up and when it's starting to encode, STOP the process, and then select ES. From their on all your settings will be set, since TMPGEnc determines how the video needs to be encoded, and you won't have to worryabout converting the audio.

Now I really cannot give anyway concrete settings, because everyone's video differs, from length, to framerate to ratio...etc. The one I am converting is an Anime Episode, which is around 25 minutes long and is fullscreen. So for newbies you guys can search around on how to convert your movies using TMPGEnc, and for the Advanced people who are familiar with TMPGEnc, hopefully it shouldn't be a problem to convert the video.

Also I would reccomend using 2 Pass Variable Bitrate, to achieve maximum results.
When your done converting, you can delete you ".AVI" file and keep the backup if you like.

*Best Bitrate I have found out soo far for converting a full screen 25 Minute Anime episode is around 2200, at 2 Pass Variable Bitrate, Maximum 2530, and Minimum 300, Padding enabled*

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Step#4:- Muxing the Audio Streams & Video using BBMpeg.

Best muxer out there. Go to the link below on how to mux your now created Audio files and video.

https://www.videohelp.com/bbmpegedit.htm


*If the program suddenly closes when you try to load in you files or try to encode, look on the bottom of website to fix the BBMpeg problem*

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Step#5:- Creating Subtitles.

Before I begin, I have to explain, that their are 2 types of Subtitles. CVD & SVCD.
I'm not going to go into detail about these 2, BUT the link above should be checked if you would like to know.
Usually most DVD Players support CVD Subtitles, and mine does too so that is why I prefer using CVD Subtitles.
First load up you .OGM file in VirtualDubMod by clicking Open Up Video File.
Go to Streams, and then Stream List.
Below the Audio ones you should see something that says TEXT Stream.
Highlight it & Click the Demux button and save it as Subtitle.SRT file because that is what kind of format the OGM Subtitles are.
Once you have your Subtitles saved, and your Mpeg 2, muxed with the Audio Streams, you click on the link below on how to create your CVD or SVCD Selectable Subtitles depending on your DVD Player.

http://www.how-to-convert.com/ask_us/a7042003.htm

*For people who are having problems with this step and get the
"Unknown error ar parsed.BuildAll()" error here is the solution.

The reason your getting this error is because the SubStationAlpha file .ssa file your generating is not Version 4. So basically all you do is load the already created .ssa file IN SubStationAlpha where you can download it from here :-

http://www.topdownloads.net/software/view.php?id=9740

and save it as .ssa AGAIN, and it will automatically make it into a Version 4. Once it is saved, you will be able to open it in Maestro, and continue.*

Once you are done with this step, your Mpeg 2 should be ready for burning.

*I don't know how this will work on other PC's, but I tested out my Mpeg2 by first playing it in Windows Media Player which played the Japanese Audio track on the file, and when I played it in PowerDVD it played the English AudioTrack. If you would like to check your file, try using this method, and see if it works for you.*

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Step#6:- Burning using Nero.

I would recommend to NOT burn with VCDEasy, due to the fact that after doing a lot of research on Selectable Subtitles and why they wouldn't play on my DVD Player, I came across a post

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/archive/t141097.html

and on the 8th post* by Nolli he specifies that their seems to be a problem with VCDEasy's source code and PBC setting, and thus I decided to not create an Image and directly burn the mpeg using Nero and my Subtitles showed up.
But if you can try to see if it would work for you, but for me I prefer Burning with Nero.

Click on the link on how to burn Mpeg2's using Nero.

https://www.videohelp.com/nerosvcd.htm

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Now your OGM to SVCD, with Multiple Audio Tracks and Selectable Subtitles is complete.



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If you have any comments, questions, or suggestions please don't hesitate to post them.

Remember I don't consider myself an Advanced person, but I will try to help you out IF I can. Enjoy*

Guide By:-

[thedemek1]

Hey, in the first step when you need to open the ogm file, it puts me through an ogg media import filter, and at the end an error comes up saying: Couldn't locate decompressor for format 'DX50' (unknown). Below that it says: VirtualDub requires a Video for Windows (VFW) compatible codec to decompress video. DirectShow codecs, such as those used by Windows Media Player, are not suitable.

What is the codec I need to get to complete the process of opening my .ogm file?

[Anonymoususer]

What codecs do you have installed...?
Can you play your OGM ?
Do you have the DivX Codecs, XviD Codec, OGM Filters installed...?

Try downloading this really excellent OGM player from this website, because it installs the things necessary to play your OGM';s correctly...and then try opening the file up in VirtualDubMod...

http://www.corecoded.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=tcmp_home&file=downloadnow

This is the free version.

Reply back soon.

[Anonymoususer]

Updated, added some links for ease...

[Anonymoususer]

Still looking for some feedback* 8)

[jGAMI]

I'm having problems with the creating subtitles.

The problem is specific to the guide you posted in Step #5.

In the program MaestroSBT, your supposedly making .sub files out of the .ssa files for use in WinSubMux.

I've followed all the directions in the guide posted, but everytime I click on the "Edit & Preview" or "Generate" button I keep getting this pop-up error:

"Unknown error ar parsed.BuildAll()"

The error is pretty cryptic as it is. Anybody figure out an trial-and-error fix for this problem?

Any help is appreciated.

Great guide by the way, just stuck on creating subtitles. It would be easier just to go with the english dub for what I'm making, but it ain't worth it.

[Anonymoususer]

I think it might be a problem in the program installation, Uninstall it and then try installing it again, and see if it works...I don't consider myself a subtitles expert but you might have to search around for a solution to this problem...BTW, what are you making ?

[Anonymoususer]

Updated the Audio Conversion Link*...

[Sakuya]

Since I'm not making an SVCD and I will only be using 1 audio track, I can convert the OGG audio to WAV right? I opened the audio in Goldwave and halfway, it said something like this:

Cannot be opened, not enough storage available.

And I went to download headache, but it won't work.

[Sakuya]

Let me rephrase that error message:

Could not write to file. No storage available or device not ready.

I am sure I have downloaded the 4 component codecs already and installed them. It's just getting the OGG to open in Goldwave. Is there another program that can do this besides headache because I can't find a working headache download link.

[Anonymoususer]

Try a different software besides Goldwave...are you looking for the link to download HeadAche the program or a conversion...? here is the link to download HeadAche...

Here are 2 links from where you can download the program:-

http://www.rjlsoftware.com/software/entertainment/headache/download.shtml

http://www.totalshareware.com/asp/detail_view.asp?application=4772

[AGAINST]

when i try to do the covertion to mpg it says "the error was occurred when ACM was initialized" what can i do?

[Anonymoususer]

Are you converting the Audio with the Video as in not separatly...? Because you have a file with 2 Audio tracks which you will have to separate to get multiple Audio tracks...Try converting them seperatly and see what happens.

[Anonymoususer]

Updated

*Added FITCd Info & Link for maximum accuracy conversion in the Video Section*
*Added a little info about as to why not converting to a VCD*

[nut10]

I am having the same problem as jGAMI when i press" Edit & Preview" or "Generate" button on MaestroSBT I keep getting this pop-up error:

"Unknown error at parsed.BuildAll()"

any help would be appreciate.

[Anonymoususer]

Sorry for the late reply...but I was having major problems connecting to the internet which now seem to be fixed, but yes I also got the same error as you and have begun my research as to find out what this error means. Will reply back soon...

[Anonymoususer]

*Updated Added the FITCd calculation area before the Audio Conversion (Step#2) for additional help in calculation.

[Anonymoususer]

Well for all of you who are having the Maestro error, I emailed the creator of Maestro & here is the solution*

You must ensure that the input file is a proper version 4 ssa file. For
doing that, open it with notepad and see if it looks something like this:

[Script Info]
; This is a Sub Station Alpha v4 script.
; For Sub Station Alpha info and downloads,
; go to http://www.eswat.demon.co.uk/
; or email kotus@eswat.demon.co.uk
Title:
ScriptType: v4.00
Collisions: Normal
PlayResY: 768
PlayDepth: 8
Timer: 100.0000

[V4 Styles]
Format: Name, Fontname, Fontsize, PrimaryColour, SecondaryColour,
TertiaryColour, BackColour, Bold, Italic, BorderStyle, Outline, Shadow,
Alignment, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, AlphaLevel, Encoding
Style: Default,Swis721 Md
BT,40,8454143,16777215,16777215,0,0,0,1,2,0,2,10,1 0,65,0,0

[Events]
Format: Marked, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect,
Text
Dialogue:
Marked=0,0:06:07.03,0:06:09.26,Dialogue,Father,000 0,0000,0000,,Prefiero
tener una hija\Nordinaria, pero libre.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:06:09.26,0:06:11.17,Dialogue,Mother,000 0,0000,0000,,Es
mejor que tener una\Nhija loca, sin embargo.
Dialogue:
Marked=0,0:06:12.19,0:06:15.01,Dialogue,Tsukino,00 00,0000,0000,,Pero ahora
tienes un\Ncompetidor, ¿no, Yuki?
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:06:15.02,0:06:18.49,Dialogue,Yukino,000 0,0000,0000,,¡Es
verdad! ¡Y no puedo\Nperder ante él, ahora!
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:06:20.46,0:06:21.37,Dialogue,Yukino,000 0,0000,0000,,Es
verdad.
Dialogue: Marked=0,0:06:21.82,0:06:25.63,Dialogue,Yukino,000 0,0000,0000,,Así
he engañado a todos durante\Ntoda la secundaria inferior.


If the file doesn't look like above, then it's not SSA or it's not version
4. If it's not version 4, download Sub Station Alpha from
http://www.eswat.demon.co.uk/, open the file with it and then save it again.
That will convert it to version 4.

Guille

P.S:- I haven't tried it out yet, but I thought I should post this before I begin.

Good luck*

[Anonymoususer]

Ok update to that post*

IF you get the Maestro Build.All() error, basically what it means is that the SubStationAlpha file .ssa file your generating is not Version 4. So basically all you do is load the already created .ssa file in SubStationAlpha where you can download it from here

http://www.divxland.org/permanentsubtitling.htm

and save it as .ssa AGAIN, and it will automatically make it into a Version 4. Once it is saved, you will be able to open it in Maestro, and continue on following the guide

http://www.how-to-convert.com/ask_us/a7042003.htm

on creating your Selectable Subtitles.

Best Regards.

[idahoprime]

Hello, im having some troubles. Im trying to make an svcd from an ogm that is over an hour long, and its very high quality. I have done the audio extraction and converted it to mp2 and it worked out ok. It came to be a little over 100mb. I renamed the ogm and put it in TMPGenc. It takes it, but all the audio/video options are grayed-out. I cant make it just video only etc. Is this okay? The 2nd part of my problem, is after i get past that point, I'm going to HAVE to split this vid up in the source range. The quality would be terrible if i made it fit on 1 disc. If i do this, How am i going to sync the split vid up with the mp2 track? Is that possible?

Thanks for any help.

[Anonymoususer]

For your greyed out option problem, load everything up, set it up, and when it starts to begin the encoding process stop it. Then in the corner click on the Load Button and their should be templates, NTSC, PAL.. etc, their should also be a folder named extra, click on that, and then load up the template Unlock. From their on you should be able to change everything, and do whatever you like.

Their are other ways you can load up the Unlock template, but I thought this might be the easiest one for you.

Now for your second problem, since your going to HAVE to Split the OGM might I suggest NOT taking out the audio first. Split the OGM first & then take out the Audio, because then it will be already set, and you won't have to think your brains out on how to Sync the Audio & Video.

Yes you CAN do it, but it is a long step, and I really wouldn't suggest that, because I know from experience.


So the best way that I would suggest is using a program called OggCut and using this guide for splitting.

Download OggCut from here:- http://www.vorbis.nu/pub/OggCut.exe

Using OggCut guide right here:-
http://www.divx.net.nz/guides/dvd_divx/step_06.htm

I hope my advice was helpful.

[idahoprime]

Ok, first of all, thanks.

Just to be clear, i cut the ogm first. Then extract audio, then encode video, then mux audio and video. Do this for each part i cut?

I think thats right.

I hope there are no sync issues with the cutter.

Thanks again

A

[idahoprime]

Also, i am going to need to make subtitles. Along with the OGM, i have a .sub file and in .idx file for it. Should i use these? If so, what do i do about the splits? Or should i follow your method. thanks

[Anonymoususer]

Check your Inbox...

[idahoprime]

For your greyed out option problem, load everything up, set it up, and when it starts to begin the encoding process stop it. Then in the corner click on the Load Button and their should be templates, NTSC, PAL.. etc, their should also be a folder named extra, click on that, and then load up the template Unlock. From their on you should be able to change everything, and do whatever you like.

First, i got an ACM error, wich is an sudio error. So in the audio box, i deleted what was there. Then i was at least able to start the encoding. But its still greyed out. So i click load like you said, but there are only templates, there isnt an extra folder. What shouldi do? Thanks

[idahoprime]

sorry - nevermind, i have a cracked version of TMPGenc and i guess the unlock template isnt in it. But i found it and i am encoding now. Sorry for the multiple posts. Im sure i will have more when its time for subtitles

[Anonymoususer]

Another way to unlock th options is by right clicking on what you want to change, the setting that is, and an option will pop up asking if you want to lock or unlock. Just unlock and you will be ONLY able to change that setting. Try that out and see if it works..

[idahoprime]

Can you explain why the hell this is happening?

[Anonymoususer]

Subtitle streams*

I will suggest to not add the subtitles to stream#0 because they will be their as soon as you start watching the movie, if you know what I mean.

What I do is fill up only streams#2 & 4, that way, when you hit the subtitles the first time, subtitles will be displayed, you hit it again and they will turn off, because stream#3 does't have any subtitles.

I hope u understand what Im am saying, but you can do whatever you like, I like doing that way...

For the final problem*

If Im not mistaken, are you adding subtitles to a CD-ROM drive on your PC G: Drive...? Honestly I have never gotten that error, so I can't tell you that much about it...

But when you created the .SUB file did you move it ?, did the BMP;s get created if they did, did you move them as well...? what exactly did you do...?

You gotta specify....

[kidkay]

Hey...I'm having a problem importing my ogm into virtualdubmod. Getting the same error thederk01 was getting:

"Hey, in the first step when you need to open the ogm file, it puts me through an ogg media import filter, and at the end an error comes up saying: Couldn't locate decompressor for format 'xvid' (unknown). Below that it says: VirtualDub requires a Video for Windows (VFW) compatible codec to decompress video. DirectShow codecs, such as those used by Windows Media Player, are not suitable.

What is the codec I need to get to complete the process of opening my .ogm file?"

I downloaded coremedia player as well as the xvid codec, still not having ne luck. do any of guys have any suggestions?


-kidkay-