PAL 2 NTSC

[kiaconcepts]

How do I convert PAL VCD 2 NTSC, Allot of movies that I download are PAL and my DVD Player wont support, Is there a way to convert 2 NTSC, Thanks

[flaninacupboard]

yes there is. hit the search button, there's plenty of people done it before.

[Sam Ontario]

Simplest and most effective is buy another DVD player. Non-Japanese brand DVD players made in China almost all can play PAL VCDs on NTSC TVs. No need to waste money and your valuable time to convert to NTSC. No need to stored them and no need to landfill your PAL VCDs.

Most earlier models made in China quality-wise were crappy ones but now most of them are quite reliable, especially those China name brands. Take a good look at the DVD Players LISTS at your left.

[Treebeard]

Both of my toshiba DVD players will play Pal material w/ no problems wherther its VCD or DVD. Makes life easier for me than trying a headache of a conversion.

[JeffroTa]

When re-encoding with TMPGEnc. set the "Video arrange Method" field to "Full Screen (Keep aspect ratio)" and it will put the PAL image in a letterboxed 4:3 frame.

[flaninacupboard]

When re-encoding with TMPGEnc. set the "Video arrange Method" field to "Full Screen (Keep aspect ratio)" and it will put the PAL image in a letterboxed 4:3 frame.

hmm. what about the different frame rate?

[JeffroTa]

When re-encoding with TMPGEnc. set the "Video arrange Method" field to "Full Screen (Keep aspect ratio)" and it will put the PAL image in a letterboxed 4:3 frame.

hmm. what about the different frame rate?

I've never had a problem with TMPGEnc. doing framerate conversion. In fact I tried the 3:2 pulldown setting in TMPGEnc. to convert NTSC film to NTSC and it gave me nothing but problems. I just let TMPGEnc. detect the format of the input video and set it for the format I want and it does a great job.

[flaninacupboard]

so it can magically convert 25 frames a second to 30 frames a second? where do the extra five frames come from? any ideas?

[erratic]

TMPGEnc Plus just duplicates about 5 frames per second to go from 25 to 29.97 fps. I tested it and watched the result frame by frame with VirtualDubMod: frame 4 was a copy of frame 3, frame 10 was a copy of frame 9, etc.

Conclusion: TMPGEnc is bad for framerate conversions. Recent versions of Canopus ProCoder do a much better job.

[erratic]

By the way, read here how you can do a better PAL VCD to NTSC Film VCD conversion with TMPGEnc. I haven't tried it myself, though.

[poerschr]

the every best way is to use avisynth...go to avisynth.org...avisynth is a framserving program, you create a test file with all of the parameters in it, and then load up that text file in TMPGenc...it is really easy, once you get the hang of it, but it does the fastest and best conversion...hands down!!

[JeffroTa]

so it can magically convert 25 frames a second to 30 frames a second? where do the extra five frames come from? any ideas?

ANYTIME YOU DO FRAMERATE CONVERSION where do the extra frames come from? Do YOU have any idea?

And why don't you post some constructive suggestions for the original poster.... or mind your own business.

[JeffroTa]

TMPGEnc Plus just duplicates about 5 frames per second to go from 25 to 29.97 fps. I tested it and watched the result frame by frame with VirtualDubMod: frame 4 was a copy of frame 3, frame 10 was a copy of frame 9, etc.

Not sure what you would expect to happen. If you're going to change the frame rate from 25fps to 29.97fps there has to be some duplication of frames somewhere.

[johns0]

Do a proper framerate conversion in tmpgenc,on advanced settings click on do no framerate conversion and select 23.976 fps with 2:3 pulldown and extract audio with mpeg tools and use besweet with gui and frame conversion 25.00 to 23.976 and re-encode and mux with m2v.

[flaninacupboard]

Do a proper framerate conversion in tmpgenc,on advanced settings click on do no framerate conversion and select 23.976 fps with 2:3 pulldown and extract audio with mpeg tools and use besweet with gui and frame conversion 25.00 to 23.976 and re-encode and mux with m2v.

Yep, most logical way. if kiaconcepts had done a search that's what he would have turned up.

ANYTIME YOU DO FRAMERATE CONVERSION where do the extra frames come from? Do YOU have any idea?

Yes thanks.

And why don't you post some constructive suggestions for the original poster.... or mind your own business.

I did, do a search. this topic has been covered hundreds of times over the years, and there's now even step by step guides with pictures.

[Nilfennasion]

It is worth pointing out that the guides, while helpful and comprehensive, can be somewhat difficult to search. I've often tried to, and been frustrated by failure with a, search for a specific conversion guide.

[flaninacupboard]

click how to - CONVERT
how to category drop down bar, CONVERT - PAL to NTSC. it's the sixth item you'll see. is that really asking too much?

[Nilfennasion]

Well, I didn't mean just this specific example. Try looking for something like how to create a DVD+Audio or how to add soundtracks from one DVD to another, and you'll see what I mean.

[erratic]

Not sure what you would expect to happen. If you're going to change the frame rate from 25fps to 29.97fps there has to be some duplication of frames somewhere.

Not true. Vegas, ProCoder and Avisynth can create entirely new frames, which is a lot better (but slower) than duplicating. It works great with interlaced PAL to interlaced NTSC. Haven't tried it with VCD stuff, though.

[flaninacupboard]

well VCD is single field so trasncoding won't be smooth. motion prediction can add intermediate frames with the correct timings, i did see some software designed for that, have to see if i can dig it up.

[Burning Zombie]

NERo Vision Express will also let you convert!

Just rip the files to your Hard Drive and use Nero, It will even let you know that the Files are comprised Mostly of PAL material and ask if you wanna keep it NTSC or save it as PAL.

[erratic]

I'd like to know first what kind of conversion NeroVision Express does?
If it just duplicates frames then I wouldn't even consider it.

[flaninacupboard]

nero aren't exactly well known for top quality conversions

[Burning Zombie]

If your doing VCD to DVD, Top Quality and VCD shouldn't even be in the same sentence.


It is a decent converter, IMO!