Bad media?? or is it the burner??

[popeye1497]

Hi ya'll. How could someone tell if they have media that doesnt agree with the burner or if it is the burner it self. I have a IO Magic(BTC 1008) and have tired the cheapo Sonic -R 4x from shoptech, Verbatim -R 4x and Ridata +RW. The problem I have been getting is frezzing towrads the end of the movie. Should i toss the burner?? or the media?? or maybe try something else?


BTW: I'm running a 2.4g, 256 ram and tend to burn movies between 3.9-4.2gig's using TMPGE DVD Author, Nero, and Deep Burner.

[cyflyer]

You don't say which media freeze up, all or one specific brand. Seems like the classic cheapo media symptom here. I bet it ain't the Verbatims. Checkout dozens of previous posts on the same subject.

[popeye1497]

They all frezze up on me. I have tried it on varies standalones and nothing, same results.

At first i thought it was the madia but know i dont know anymore.

[iooi]

They all frezze up on me. I have tried it on varies standalones and nothing, same results.

At first i thought it was the madia but know i dont know anymore.

Does the file you burned play alright on your pc using something like power dvd ?
If you are only going to 3.9 even on cheap media it often Ok.

[GKar]

Hi ya'll. How could someone tell if they have media that doesnt agree with the burner or if it is the burner it self. I have a IO Magic(BTC 1008) and have tired the cheapo Sonic -R 4x from shoptech, Verbatim -R 4x and Ridata +RW. The problem I have been getting is frezzing towrads the end of the movie. Should i toss the burner?? or the media?? or maybe try something else?


BTW: I'm running a 2.4g, 256 ram and tend to burn movies between 3.9-4.2gig's using TMPGE DVD Author, Nero, and Deep Burner.

Forget the media brand, what does DVDinfopro say the make of the media is?

[disturbed1]

This problem is popping up more and more each day.

Having playback problems can be attributed to 1 of 3 basic problems.

1. DVD Media/DVD Burner. We all know the quality of Princo media, but some burners will yield great results with this media (Pioneer A07). If you don't want to get Taiyo Yuden or Maxell media only, you'll have to find the sweet spot for your burner. Each burner gives different results with each media. But it seems as if Taiyo Yuden is flawless no matter what burns it.

2. You PC setup/software. Different Burning applications interface differently with your burner. They use PX engine, ASAPI, ASPI, Gear, ELBY, SPTI, and/or their own "tuned" drivers too. Depending on your motherboard chipset and total setup, one program could work better than another. There is also the condition of your disk drives. These do get weak and fail over time, some sooner than others. There is also fragment errors, and just plain old user error. Like trying to play Far Cry while burning a DVD<-you deserve nothing but coasters.

3. Your set top player. These are not all created equal, and in general are mass produced with the cheapest components the company can find. The laser mech. will also wear out over time, which depends on the envorinment it's in, and if your the type that plays the device for 12 hours straight in a smoke filled room or not.


SO you have to do some trouble shooting. Check for firmware updates on your burner. There's no need to try yet another brand of media, you've tried 3 different ones with the same effect on different stand alone players. Do some system maintence. Kill those rouge running processes, and run chkdsk and disk defragmenter. If all that doesn't work, try another burning program. Last resort, chuck the burner and buy another brand.

[popeye1497]

Forget the media brand, what does DVDinfopro say the make of the media is?

Ridata = Ricohjpn w11 (2nd class)
Verbatim = MMC (1st class)
Sonic = Longten, no code (4th class)

Does the file you burned play alright on your pc using something like power dvd ?
If you are only going to 3.9 even on cheap media it often Ok.

The Ridata works fine on the CPU, no frezzing...what gives? I would prefer to be able to watch them on the couch then this office chair. haha

[GKar]

Are you labeling your dvd's?

[lordsmurf]

Devil's advocate:

BTC hates RICOHJPN quite often.
MCC can be bad on BTC, but not often. Had 1 out of 100 go bad on BTC.
LONGTEN ... yeah...

Anyway, it could be the authoring or burning software.
And the BTC drives work well ... just not out-of-the-box. Have you upgraded the firmware of the unit?

Are you POSITIVE 100% that your player can play burns?

Repeating above post ... are you labeling these?

[iooi]

The Ridata works fine on the CPU, no frezzing...what gives? I would prefer to be able to watch them on the couch then this office chair. haha

No you miss-understand me....
Not the disk's
Do the files on your Hard Drive play OK before you burn them....
If they do this would rule out a problem with the ripping process.

[popeye1497]

Are you labeling your dvd's?

Nope, no labels.

Anyway, it could be the authoring or burning software.
And the BTC drives work well ... just not out-of-the-box. Have you upgraded the firmware of the unit?

Are you POSITIVE 100% that your player can play burns?

I dont think its the authoring, wouldnt it be anytime during the movie, not just towards the end. I also updated the drive with the lastest firmware and still frezzing towards the end.

No you miss-understand me....
Not the disk's
Do the files on your Hard Drive play OK before you burn them....
If they do this would rule out a problem with the ripping process.

I test out all the files before, they work fine.


I'm gonna burn a couple dvd's with 3.4 gig's and see what happens, maybe this corrects the problem....but i would still love to know what the heck the problem is, that I would be able to use the drive if I had to Burn anything around 4-4.4 gb.

[jameshgross]

It's the media,,,its the media,,,its the media,,,

Go get a couple of Memorex or Sony DVD+/-RWs. You'll see a big difference.

Then choose the BEST +/-R media you can buy. See other media posts.

DONT skimp on media.

[Hawseman]

It's the media,,,its the media,,,its the media,,,

Go get a couple of Memorex or Sony DVD+/-RWs. You'll see a big difference.

Then choose the BEST +/-R media you can buy. See other media posts.

DONT skimp on media.

Exactly right....I've had the same problem with Ritek. I switched to TY and Maxell. Happy camper ever since.

[-jsl-]

Hi ya'll. How could someone tell if they have media that doesnt agree with the burner or if it is the burner it self. I have a IO Magic(BTC 1008) and have tired the cheapo Sonic -R 4x from shoptech, Verbatim -R 4x and Ridata +RW. The problem I have been getting is frezzing towrads the end of the movie. Should i toss the burner?? or the media?? or maybe try something else?

Toss the burner. BTC (Burn Total Coasters) drives are not exactly known to produce good quality burn results and they are most likely the worst 8x writers available... They don't even produce good results with high quality media.

[lordsmurf]

BTC burners are some of the BEST readers around though.
Burning could be slightly better, but it's not outright trash.

[popeye1497]

Thanks all for the info. I'm gonna try out a couple different media(Fuji, Mamorex, maxell, etc) brands and see what the results are. If i get the same results i', gonna upgrade to a Pioneer or a TDK.

BTW, The movies on some disc play perfect...but on others forget about it! Like i said, towards the end. Also, i bought this burner off ebay as an open box item , lord knows what the heck was wrong with it.

[iooi]

Also, i bought this burner off ebay as an open box item , lord knows what the heck was wrong with it.

Why did'nt you say so in the first post.... Most likly its a returned burner or the 1st owner had the same problem....
Far better off getting stuff like this from a reliable store either online or off line.... At least you could take it back then...
As it is what you thought you were saving will be spent many times over by wasted media and a new drive...

[lenti_75]

it's the drive...too many problems with too many media...

coincidence......NO

[DVD_Ripper]

Did you have a chance to run the suspect disks thru DVDInfoPro on your burner or a ROM drive.

[PJGS]

Problems with all Ricoh and MCC media?.
We are talking about some of the best media anyone can get (particularly MCC), so I have no doubt that ur burner is faulty!
I haven't had 1 single coaster from MCC media!!

[popeye1497]

Did you have a chance to run the suspect disks thru DVDInfoPro on your burner or a ROM drive.

i did test using CDSpeed and it came back clean, so to me its the way they were burned i.e. the burner couldnt reach the outer edge or something more technical then that.

Gonna do a search now for which burner is better, TDK or Pioneer....but from what i have seen already its more opinion then anything else.

[lordsmurf]

Pioneer over the TDK. Not opinion, reliability.

[RABinMS]

I’ve got a similar problem to Popeye’s, but the disc only freezes up/jerks during the first few minutes. Probably no more than 7-8 minutes into the program. After that everything looks fine. Using Taiyo Yuden TY01 DVD-R burned in a Plextor 712A using TMPGEnc DVD Author. 2.66 Gig Pentium 4 machine, 1 Gig of RAM. My stand alone Sony player has played DVD-R media that others have burned, but doesn’t seem to go for this. Looks like I can play it back OK on the Plextor. Any ideas???