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    Subject says it all, but I'll explain. I went through the (painstaking) trouble of arranging subtitles for two hours of home movies, only to discover that DVD-Lab Pro wants to treat my no-drop-timed subs with drop-frame timing. Meaning that by the time we're an hour into the video, the subtitles are preceeding the actual dialogue by some three seconds.

    For the simple fact that the idea of converting the timings of two hours of subtitles by hand and by calculator is incomprehensible, I truly do hope that some subtitle app developer has considered the possibility of this scenario developing, and written a little bit of code to convert timings back and forth between 29.97 and 30.00. Anyone know?

    (Incidentally, it seems that DVD-Lab Pro's fairly well-known problem with chapter accuracy affects subtitles as well, because apart from the sync issue, I also got to witness my otherwise careful timings get butchered by DVD-Lab Pro's random number generator.)
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  2. 30.00 and 29.97 is the same thing....acutallly 30.00 is just a simple way to write 29.97....and believe it or not, but ALL video must be played at 29.97 (on the basic standard TV - non-progressive, the same technology that we have been using since the beginning of TV)...You can play it on the computer at 30.00, but not on a DVD. A DVD will only play at 29.97....

    So, if you subtitles are set to 29.97, you have no real problem. Just reencode the video to 29.97, you would never want to set any video to 30.00....

    Maybe this helps you, I am not the expert on subtitles....But I would use a different program than DVD-Lab Pro, those off the shelf everything in a box wonder programs, never live up to expectations...try out vobsub...
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    Re-encode the video (best if you can go back to the source rather than re-encode what you already encoded) and this time BURN the subs into the video while encoding.

    That should solve your sync problem.

    You already encoded once without subs burned in so make 2 DVD's one without the burned in subs and one with if you want it "both" ways.

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    Well, it turns out that I was right about the subs being utterly screwed in DVD-Lab for the time being. People have desperately tried to invent workarounds but subs are effectively unusable. At least I can say I have the data handy, for whenever DVD-Lab allows me to properly finish my projects.
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    Sadly I had the same problem just days ago. I gave up on adding subs with dvdlab pro and i just made another 4X3 LBX version disc with burnt subtitles.
    You could change 29.97 to 30.00 with Subtitle Workshop, but it won't help with dvdlab pro anyway. You'll still have to manually adjust timings for many subs.
    Im still hoping maybe next beta5 of DVDlab pro will work better...
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