Going Back To VHS & Mini DV. I've had it!!

[spummerr]

After hearing all the hype and buying a cd & dvd burner, I can truly say Ive had it trying to transfer video to cd's, make a dvd movie etc etc.All the BS one must go thru just to make a cd. Then you give it to friends etc and most can't play it on their dvd players anyway. What good is it??
You need to be really into this technology just to figure out how a program works, encoding, editing,transfering blah blah blah. I've used several programs. Each sucked, or were to damn frustrating to figure out.
I just wanted to simply transfer video to cd's so anyone can watch them. It ends up I can't watch my own dvd on my player. It's not made for it. I've tried every format there is of different media to.I had no idea this technology was full of so much BS just to get something transfered. Then to find out only certain players will play it.
I'm buying more dv tapes for my camcorder, transfering them to vhs when I want to share them. Easy, simple, no headaches, no forums to learn how to do it. No buggy software that renders it worthless etc.
To each their own, but I've had it with all this cd crap.

[rbmerc]

suit yourself... if you learn how to do everything right it is quite simple actually and it really pays off in the quality of the video and your work (if you edit the movie)...

-merc

[Sillyname]

After hearing all the hype and buying a cd & dvd burner, I can truly say Ive had it trying to transfer video to cd's, make a dvd movie etc etc.All the BS one must go thru just to make a cd. Then you give it to friends etc and most can't play it on their dvd players anyway. What good is it??
You need to be really into this technology just to figure out how a program works, encoding, editing,transfering blah blah blah. I've used several programs. Each sucked, or were to damn frustrating to figure out.
I just wanted to simply transfer video to cd's so anyone can watch them. It ends up I can't watch my own dvd on my player. It's not made for it. I've tried every format there is of different media to.I had no idea this technology was full of so much BS just to get something transfered. Then to find out only certain players will play it.
I'm buying more dv tapes for my camcorder, transfering them to vhs when I want to share them. Easy, simple, no headaches, no forums to learn how to do it. No buggy software that renders it worthless etc.
To each their own, but I've had it with all this cd crap.

Yeah, I know a guy who's been in the biz for over 30 years and he's just now getting into this shit and it's driving him nuts!

[racer-x]

Like the saying goes.............. if it was easy, anybody could do it. It's not easy do do it correctly. It's also not for everyone. For the few of us that can do it, it's a lot of fun. For the record, my DVDs play on 100% of the players tested so far(over 50).

But hey, if your happy with VHS, go for it!

[troyvcd1]

Well I agree that CDs were never meant to have video on them and will never be good. Taking the time to learn to make dvds properly is definately worth it. Just having a compact format and the ability of your relatives to skip to the next chapter of boring home videos is worth it. For me I think that using CCE encoder (or possibly canopus procoder) is the only encoder that gives satisfactory results but that is a whole other thread.

[crusty]

I think that if you have the right tools and just a little bit of research making Video CDs and DVDs is incredibly easy I have made hundreds of DVDs and CDI's and none have ever failed, if you want quality and not trash looking video learning this technology is well worth the effort.

My 2 cents.

[bottle-necked]

After hearing all the hype and buying a cd & dvd burner, I can truly say Ive had it trying to transfer video to cd's, make a dvd movie etc etc.All the BS one must go thru just to make a cd. Then you give it to friends etc and most can't play it on their dvd players anyway. What good is it??

Making a VideoCD with the right setup (hardware/software) is easy. True some players won't play them. My player seems to only play them when on certain media. I've put modified VCD files on DVD disks with few to no compatibility issues. What good is it? It's something I like to do and something my family seems to appreciate.

You need to be really into this technology just to figure out how a program works, encoding, editing,transfering blah blah blah.

I agree with you here. I've read many guides and spent many more hours trying to learn how to work video and I'm still learning. It takes time and effort I agree, at least it did and still does for me. And it isn't for everyone....

I've used several programs. Each sucked, or were to damn frustrating to figure out.

I've tried many programs and I too have found some I just don't like so I don't use them. That is a personal preference issue I think.

I just wanted to simply transfer video to cd's so anyone can watch them. It ends up I can't watch my own dvd on my player. It's not made for it.

One of the most compatible players I hear is only like $39.00. Most any of us here should be able to afford that....

I've tried every format there is of different media to.I had no idea this technology was full of so much BS just to get something transfered. Then to find out only certain players will play it.

This site has a huge list of media players and what they will play. It's a good idea to search this list for your model and compare your results with those. It's also a good idea to learn proper technique from the start so to try and avoid trouble later. It appears, I'm sorry to say, you have not.

I'm buying more dv tapes for my camcorder, transfering them to vhs when I want to share them. Easy, simple, no headaches, no forums to learn how to do it. No buggy software that renders it worthless etc.
To each their own, but I've had it with all this cd crap.

Ok, see ya and good luck.

[northcat_8]

After hearing all the hype and buying a cd & dvd burner, I can truly say Ive had it trying to transfer video to cd's, make a dvd movie etc etc.All the BS one must go thru just to make a cd. Then you give it to friends etc and most can't play it on their dvd players anyway. What good is it??
You need to be really into this technology just to figure out how a program works, encoding, editing,transfering blah blah blah. I've used several programs. Each sucked, or were to damn frustrating to figure out.
I just wanted to simply transfer video to cd's so anyone can watch them. It ends up I can't watch my own dvd on my player. It's not made for it. I've tried every format there is of different media to.I had no idea this technology was full of so much BS just to get something transfered. Then to find out only certain players will play it.
I'm buying more dv tapes for my camcorder, transfering them to vhs when I want to share them. Easy, simple, no headaches, no forums to learn how to do it. No buggy software that renders it worthless etc.
To each their own, but I've had it with all this cd crap.

I have well over 1000 DVDs spread throughout the USA, played in god only knows what, my email address printed clearly on the surface and I've never had anyone not have one play. Maybe you just aren't smart enough or more likely PATIENT enough. It's a little more complicated than inserting clipart into a word document

Sooo...what do we care if you've given up?? ...have a good one. When your tapes start degrading and you want your video converted, just shoot me a PM or email and I'll do it for you...I'm pretty cheap on straight conversions.

[lordsmurf]

This is a hobby of patience.

On one hand, I feel sorry for you. It sucks you can't get it to work.

On the other hand, I hate impatient people, so I'm always glad to be rid of them.

You'll only learn things in life when you have the patience to do so.

[Nilfennasion]

I have to concur with every response here so far. If I gave up when I got frustrated at how my own lack of understanding made the process more complicated for me, or when I used a format that my available players were not compatible with, I'd never experienced the reward of being able to strip the copyright messages out of the DVDs I paid for (here's a hint, DVD Consortium - I feel insulted when asked to pay to read copyright messages).

In a nutshell, spummerr, we won't miss you. Like anti-cloning nuts, I suggest you go back to wiping your duff with fig leaves where you belong, because Very Hazy System is as dead as dog in front of a Ferrari.

[spummerr]

F**k You

In a nutshell, spummerr, we won't miss you. Like anti-cloning nuts, I suggest you go back to wiping your duff with fig leaves where you belong, because Very Hazy System is as dead as dog in front of a Ferrari.[/quote]

You are in breach of the forum rules and are being issued with a formal warning.
/ Moderator BJ_M

[thor300]

Things worth while never come easy, but if you are a quitter then quit. I also keep a lot off stuff on (Digital8) tapes but VHS??? Never again. Dont tell me theres no problems with VHS tapes, recorded in one player plays like shit in another player, if at all, palyers eating tapes, lok like hell after a year, amgnetic interference and so on, like we did in the old days. One need newer quality players for VHS too, just as with DVD, and DVD players cost far less for acceptable quality that can handle most formats. Try make a VHS play 7 different formats.

[SLK001]

F**k You

In a nutshell, spummerr, we won't miss you. Like anti-cloning nuts, I suggest you go back to wiping your duff with fig leaves where you belong, because Very Hazy System is as dead as dog in front of a Ferrari.

Why are you still hanging around here? Get GOING!! GET ON WITH YOUR LIFE!!
Or, was your post a well disguised plea for help? After all, you've only been around here for less than four months.

I agree with everyone who says that we won't miss you. Now, if you ARE trying to elicit help, maybe if you actually TOLD us the steps you have taken and the problems you are having, maybe some of the people that you haven't INSULTED would still be willing to give assistance.

(P.S. I FIXED the quotes in your previous posting. Another indication of a clueless NOOB - or tgpo.)

[BobV]

At the risk of being flamed I agree with a lot of what spummerr said. Furthermore rather than feeling frustrated at this technology I’ve given up on doing some things however I accept it as my shortcoming. After all this is cutting edge stuff the way I see it. Most likely in just a few years the 50 or so formats, and that is where the problem lies, will have narrowed to just a few. Hence hardware/firmware will then do the job today’s hobbyist and spummerr can get back to his conversions. But don’t sweat it by then some of us will be learning ways of projecting holographic images into 3D space.

[FOO]

I think the only thing that sucks is media problems. You can't
predict what media works on what burner/player. Everything
else is deterministic. You do it right and it works.

[Gazorgan]

There are a few settop players that don't play Commercial DVD's very well either. You would think a brand new DVD out of the package wouldn't have macro blocks, but on some players it can. These aren't $39 players either (the $39 players play anything), typically in the $100 range and from places like Sears and JCPenny.

Then again my digital cable always has macroblocks in it, you just have to know where to look to see them.

Good luck on the VHS! I don't own one anymore, neither do my parents or in-laws. In fact most of the ones I've seen in homes of friends are over 5 years old (a goodly number of non-stereo units).

[Boffo]

Stop whining!!!! Suck it in and play hurt like the rest of us. Sure, you could go back to floppy drives and use about a kazillion of them to copy a movie. But once you get the hang of this new fangled stuff, it's the only way to go.

Eight tracks forever!!

[northcat_8]

F**k You

OH MY the profanity!!

I'm going to have to stop by the church on the way home and get some holy water to wash out my eyes, having read such profanity. :/

[burnman99]

It's like this...DVD/VCD creation isn't a no-brainer, but it's not rocket science either. The most important thing is to get a good DVD player that plays most all formats. There are many inexpensive players like Apex 1200 that play the majority of formats and are not expensive. DVD is trickier, with having the +- issue. Also, the worst thing about DVD is the media itself. Media A will play but not Media B or Media B will play when burned with TGPOburn, but not with Nero, that sort of thing. The player/media incompatiblity is about 90% of the hardest part of this. Once you get that the converting/burning isn't difficult. Back in the day, I managed to burn SVCD with a 2X printer port CD Burner, on a Dell 266mhz PII using a Buz card for capture, so anything can be done. And if you have any questions ASK!

Good Luck!

Rog

[Redeye07]

spummerr: I understand how you feel. I nearly gave up myself. I guess it boils down to "how bad do you want it?"

Apparently, I wanted more than you. So I hung in there, frustrated, confused, tired, and cranky until it finally started working for me. I'm not all that bright, so it took me about a month to figure it out and 2 more months to refine it.

This is a GREAT hobby, once you get the hang of it. But anything is easy once you know how.

You might want to give it a try again in the future. After you've calmed down and aren't so cranky (been there, done that).

[thegig]

Four years running and I still don't know anything :P

Defininately a game of "patients", some die a horrible death, others die quick and easy. Attitude is everything.

[spummerr]

I agree, When I made a cd, odds were hardly anyone I gave it to could play it. Not everyone has a brand new dvd player, and not everyone I know has a computer to play it on.
Sure vhs isn't as good, but 99% of people own a vhs player. At least I know when I give someone a tape, they can easily view it. If it last 1-10 years, who cares??
I just posted my opinions on cd's. I don't have 8 hours a day to figure out everything all these programs require..
Everyone should keep their crapola comments to themselves.
If you love cd's, great!! If not great, that was my objective.
I'm not stupid, I have paitence, I just don't care for all the bs that has to go into this present technology. So be it. Have a good day

I think the only thing that sucks is media problems. You can't
predict what media works on what burner/player. Everything
else is deterministic. You do it right and it works.

[spummerr]

8 tracks are kool, and sound damn good. i kept several, wish i had more.

Stop whining!!!! Suck it in and play hurt like the rest of us. Sure, you could go back to floppy drives and use about a kazillion of them to copy a movie. But once you get the hang of this new fangled stuff, it's the only way to go.

Eight tracks forever!!

[lordsmurf]

Everyone should keep their crapola comments to themselves.

If that's your attitude, why are you posting here? Moron.

[spummerr]

Have a ZD day there smurfmiester

Everyone should keep their crapola comments to themselves.

If that's your attitude, why are you posting here? Moron.

[tompika]

Tapes are not flexible enough for me.

I don't think I'll ever buy one again.

[FOO]

Hey man , now that you have given up on making DVDs
can I have your DVD burner ?

[SatStorm]

Patience is the key.

Also, I always say that any of us need 4 months to learn the basics of this hobby. If you wish fast results, get a standalone recorder....

I'm 5 years on this scene and still have lots to learn. The more I'm around, the less I know!

And it is not only this: We have to update all the time our findings and our reading! It never ends!

Now let's all

[bottle-necked]

Have a ZD day there smurfmiester

This shows how old I'm get'n..... I don't know what "Have a ZD day" means........

[lordsmurf]

Have a ZD day there smurfmiester

This shows how old I'm get'n..... I don't know what "Have a ZD day" means........

I speak normal American English.
I don't keep up with "hip" sayings like that.
Means nothing to me.
Let's all have a "ZD day" I guess. Maybe even a QY or DR day!