IS THIS GUY KIDDING?????????????????????????

[marshalljames]

this program is bad you can only make scene selection type menus DVD LAB is better then this you can make motion menus like the one on terminator 2 if you want any software get DVD LAB and not this on i gave it a 4 because of scene selection type menus and i have used and every single dvd duthor program but is you like it like that then get U-lead it is like this one but better and easy to under stand.

This was posted by Ace CooL in the comments section .Is this guy kidding??

Firstly,TMPEGEnc DVD Author does do motion menu's.DVD lab also does motion menu's but does not do the encoding itself.
Secondly I can make a pro looking motion menu,with chapter selection in about 10 minutes(no kidding)and make quite a few modifications to the display.
There's no way your gonna do that with DVD Lab.
If DVD Lab has one advantage .It is you have much greater control over the content but with this control comes an increased learning curve.
If you want to spend the entire evening making your greatest DVdD menu since sliced bread then DVD lab is for you.If you want to spend ten to twenty minutes creating adequate looking menu's then TMPEGEnc DVD Author is better and is laughable to be descibed as bad.

[adam]

Whether software is good or bad is entirely a matter of opinion, so obvioulsy neither of you can be right or wrong. Also, the software comments section is intended for just that, to leave your opinion of the software. So you are both justified for saying your feelings about the software, but are both out of line for criticizing the other for their views.

TMPGenc DVD Author is obviously not a high end authoring package. It has good basic functionality and with a little creativity you might be able to get some semi-professional projects done. You have to put "good" and "bad" in perspective. For the money (lack thereof that is) and the learning curve, TMPGenc DVD Author seems to have alot to offer for its particular target group. But if you're not in that target group then you obviously aren't going to like it.

[tsantsa]

So what would be a step up from TMPGenc Dvd Author? Not a leap up, just a step.

[adam]

Ulead? DVD-Lab? DVD-it!?

All of these are relatively low end packages as well.

[lordsmurf]

Ulead? DVD-Lab? DVD-it!?

All of these are relatively low end packages as well.

I'd call DVD-LAB and DVDit! PE mid-range apps.

Low-end is occupied by Nero Express, Roxio, TMPENC, MyDVD, Ulead MF, etc

[Sifaga]

So what would be a step up from TMPGenc Dvd Author? Not a leap up, just a step.

I was looking for a step up from TDA just last week and decided to give DVD-LAB a try, easy to learn, try some of the tips and tricks on their website

[jimmalenko]

@marshalljames:

What part of the word "opinion" do you not understand ?

[SatStorm]

This is a very personal thing you know...

For me, TMPGenc is the perfect solution, while DVD Lab is both a waste of time and a "delicate" program. Why? Because the source of my projects are or DVB transmissions or realtime mpeg 2s from Mainconcept 1.4.1 or encoded avi's from TMPGenc. And since I am a region 2 PAL user and for us the mp2 audio (musicam) is the standard for the audio, I don't have issues at all with TMPGenc author but I do have with DVDlab. Also, I do my job far more fast with TMPGenc author (I load direct my mpegs there, I don't have to use elementary streams as I have to do with other authoring applications), and I don't have to care for things like GOP stracture (DVB transmissions often are not DVD GOP compatible), bitrate (DVB transmissions sometimes are using VBR up to 15000kb/s), framesize (I can add all the DVD resolutions direct, other applications - not DVD Lab - are limited on this) and mpeg type (like vbr mpeg 1 from my old xVCDs, etc). Anything I author with TMPGenc author and burn with Nero 5.5 on my Pioneer 105, work perfect on all the DVD standalone supporting DVD-R I ever test.
You see, for me is a great benefit that I can import direct mpeg 2 files and I don't have to split audio / video. Also, I don't need fancy menus, in the matter of fact, a "catalogue" with 10 - 15 items per page is just perfect for my needs. Animated button / backgrounds / thumbs etc, is a waste of disc space. Why to waste 500 - 600 MB of a DVD discs for menus? I prefer to use this disc space with matterial that actually I do see. I also don't care to burn my DVDs with the same program. I don't understand why people once screaming for this feature. I always export to a folder and I burn with nero. And when my project is a bit more than 4.37GB (~ 400MB at most), I simply use dvd2one of DVDShrink to transcode them more, with no really quality difference (in my eyes at least...)
I also don't care for ac3 audio (not important for us in Europe), I don't care for subtitles, I don't care for a second / third / etc audio channel, I don't care for animation / transictions / etc.
In the matter of fact, even back in my VCD/CVD/SVCD days, I was 100% happy with the basic authoring NERO 5 offers for those formats.
I bet that TMPGenc Author targets to people like me, which simply need to do their job done, fast and easy.

DVDLab targets to other kind of users, those who love to add same creativity to their projects. It is the excellent cheap solution for semi pros, online traders of any kind DVD related and probably users who wish to play with DVD creation, with a cheap price and a safe, working way. Also, DVDLab is an excellent solution for those "special" projects we all want to author in a unique advance way.

The way I see it, TMPGenc author is the best solution when you convert your VHS tapes to DVD, your collections / compilations of music/ cartoons/ whatever. When you wish simply authoring, fast results, direct access to what you wish to see (menus can be disturbing at times as you know...). DVD Lab is the perfect solution to author your Wedding, your hollidays, special projects, etc.

And as Jeex would say for this matter: "TMPGenc author is like your wife and DVDLab is like your weekly hooker. You **** your wife one way or other each ******* day. Once in a while, you have to **** something else. Here comes the hookers. But hookers have fun, nothing else. So it is back in your wife again. Untill the next time..."

shit, I'm still drunk from last night, what do I typing here...

[snapperv6]

@SatStorm

I also don't care for ac3 audio (not important for us in Europe)

Please don't inlcude all of us Europeans in your generalisations.

AC3 is important to some of us.

I suggest you check the DVDRhelp glossary for AC3.

When you're sober!!!

[SatStorm]

Two things:

1- I'm here untill 2000, do you think that I don't know about ac3?
2- I wrote: "also I don't care for ac3 audio (not important for us in Europe)"

Now, let's analyse in English what that means:
"I don't care for ac3 audio". This is personal. I don't care for ac3 audio. I don't need it. Me, I, myself. More personal couldn't be... It is not a generalisation in any term.
"(not important for us in Europe)" This is generalisation and it is 100% true. If you read about the region 2 DVD specifications, you gonna notice that indeed AC3 is not importand for us in Europe, the Region 2 users. It is importand for the region 1 users. For us, the region 2 users, musicam is an official audio alternative we can use without issues and the r2 standalones have to support it, at any cost.
Now let's analyse the second part of my sentance: "It is not importand" This phrase, doesn't mean "we don't need it", or "we don't use it", or "we don't care about it". It simply means that we don't have to use it, wanted or not, as the Region 1 users have, if they wish to be 100% on the DVD Region 1 specifications. We, the R2 users, can use musicam audio and ramain 1000% on specifications, because in simply words, musicam IS an official alternative for us. And here we don't judge what is better or not, we talking only about combatibility. That is what counts when we talk about specifications.

Your comment also is: "AC3 is important to some of us". Now: This is also personal. Yourself determine it that way, by saying "some of us".
Well...
Any kind of generalisation, is not targeting the "some of ....", but the "most of ...". This is a forum, and this is a general discussion for a specific subject. I post one personal opinion on this and I simply point and some general things about it. I don't understand why you quote me. I mean, I'm not wrong, and I did express it well. Why you quote me, I don't get it...

Maybe is the hangover I have or that I'm in a bad mood, but your post seems like an attack. Call it an instict, I understand those things by nature. OR, you didn't understand what I said.
Anyway if it is the second thing, I believe that I clearify it now, even for those picky users like you. If it is the first thing, then I bet the "We hate SatStorm" fun club gonna have a new member...

[FOO]

Considering the incredible difficulty of getting a free
compliant AC3 encoder or the expense of buying one
I take my chances with MP2. My captures start off that way,
and I have never found a player that can't play it.
Even the $30 TDA plugin is "rented" . You have to validate
it over the internet periodically. That sucks bad

[ajc53]

I learn a lot from this site, and the entertainment value of somebody flaming is great, too.

None is better though, than the AMD vs Intel battles.

[Capmaster]

I learn a lot from this site, and the entertainment value of somebody flaming is great, too.

None is better though, than the AMD vs Intel battles.

I don't know ...the PC vs. Mac battles get pretty interesting

[alstatr]

Satstorm

This is how you spell important not importand. Where did you go to school?

[BobK]

>Whether software is good or bad is entirely a matter of opinion, so obvioulsy neither of you can be right or wrong

While it's true that 'good' or 'bad' is a matter of opinion, it's not true that neither can be wrong. Ace CooL made several statements of fact that are wrong.

> this program is bad you can only make scene selection type menus

That's not true.

> DVD LAB is better then this

That's opinion.

> you can make motion menus like the one on terminator 2

The implication that you can't do that with DVD Author is wrong.

> if you want any software get DVD LAB and not this on

Or get one of the many, many other options- Adobe Premier, Vegas, etc etc.

> i gave it a 4 because of scene selection type menus

A totally invalid opinion since it's based on ignorance of what the program actually does.

> and i have used and every single dvd duthor program

A statement of fact- not opinion. And while it's possible that he's used "every single Dauthor program" it's highly unlikely that he's used "every single" one. And if he has used "every single" one it's unlikely he learned to use them any better than he did DVD Author.

[bugster]

I learn a lot from this site, and the entertainment value of somebody flaming is great, too.

None is better though, than the AMD vs Intel battles.

This one could be quite interesting though!

Satstorm

This is how you spell important not importand. Where did you go to school?

picking up a non-native english speaker on a minor typo, just how trivial can you get , or is there a missing smiley somewhere

[alstatr]

He made the mistake over and over. I was just informing him on how to spell the word. Sorry about the school thing, people mis-spelling words annoys me sometimes....

[Redeye07]

I agree with marshalljames; this statement is wrong -- "you can only make scene selection type menus."

This guy needs to learn to use TMPGEnc DVD Author BEFORE he posts an opinion.

SatStorm: I'd like to see alstatr reply to you in Greek so you can correct his spelling for him. One good turn deserves another. :P

[p_l]

people mis-spelling words annoys me sometimes....

mis-spelling

[Capmaster]

people mis-spelling words annoys me sometimes....

mis-spelling

What's that about the pot calling the kettle black? Or is it "Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones

[indolikaa]

Do I need to come in here and open up a can of Shut-The-****-Up ?

[BobK]

Actually it's 'misspelling' (no hyphen). I only point this out because I'd hate to see p_l get annoyed with himself.

[Capmaster]

Do I need to come in here and open up a can of Shut-The-****-Up ?

A therapeutic dose please. This thread started out doomed

[Capmaster]

Actually it's 'misspelling' (no hyphen). I only point this out because I'd hate to see p_l get annoyed with himself.

Sheesh. Didn't you understand P-L's post and click his link?

What's that about the pot calling the kettle black? Or is it "Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones

My post was agreeing with p_l who pointed out the irony of someone bitching about spelling and then misspells "misspelling"

Note to self: Add "People who don't read the posts" to the DVDRHELP pet peeves thread. :P

[indolikaa]

Satstorm

This is how you spell important not importand. Where did you go to school?

Oh boy. This should bring SatStorm out of his hangover REAL quick.

He made the mistake over and over. I was just informing him on how to spell the word. Sorry about the school thing, people mis-spelling words annoys me sometimes....

You know, it's too bad I'm on the down side of a bipolar spell right now. This one has REAL promise.

[northcat_8]

Pour speling is 1 think that gits on my nerves....butt not as bad as peeple who don't use proper grammer damnit.

What kind of skools are yoo peepol going two?????

[indolikaa]

Fark ewe, nerthkut_m8!

[northcat_8]

FERK ME? FERK ME?

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soooo, indo.....how is work going today?? working as hard as I am I see

[Baldrick]

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