LiteOn LVW-5005 (available)

[donpedro]

http://www.liteonit.com/DC/english/lvw_5005.htm

-Programmable TV Recording
-Digital Recording (Up to 6 Hours)
-Archive VHS cassettes on DVD Disc
-One Touch Recording
-DV Link ( IEEE1394 )
-Easy Guider

Are you still deciding whether to choose between a +RW/+R and a –RW/-R DVD Recorder? LITE-ON IT introduces a solution that solves this ongoing dilemma. Our new LVW-5005 DVD Dual recorder provides the best solution for simplifying your decision making. The "All Write" capabilities of the LVW-5005 allow users to write their digital content to most popular digital discs, including DVD and CD Recordable media.

RECORDABLE DISC SUPPORTED :
1. DVD+R ( DVD+VR Mode )
2. DVD+RW ( DVD+VR Mode )
3. DVD-R ( DVD+VR Mode )
4. DVD-RW ( DVD+VR Mode )
5. CD-R ( SVCD/VCD Format )
6. CD-RW ( SVCD/VCD Format )

[robpiggott]

i wonder if this is going to use the new chip made by philips for dual recording???

[donpedro]

Based on what they used in 5001, I assume they will use LSI chip. From the beggining chip was supporting +/-.

[Gil T Pleasure]

Surely this is a typo, right?

RECORDABLE DISC SUPPORTED :
3. DVD-R ( DVD+VR Mode )
4. DVD-RW ( DVD+VR Mode )

[donpedro]

If it is, it is not my That what is on their website.

[PhilipL]

Withdrawn

[kabanero]

...and will take on the same unreliable characteristics of +RW, as the +VR mode is just not very robust.

Philip

Ha ha ,

PhilipL

You still hate DVD+R/RW format. Too bad for you.

Can you take your recorded DVD-RW disk in DVD-VR format out of your DVD-RW set-top recorder and play it right away on any other stand alone DVD player.?

NO, YOU CAN'T.

I can take recorded DVD+RW disk in DVD+VR format out of my LiteOn recorder and play it right away on any other stand alone DVD plyaer.

YES, I CAN.

[PhilipL]

Withdrawn

[Gil T Pleasure]

I took a quick look at the user manual and the recorder doesn't appear to use DVD+VR nor DVD-VR for DVD-RW discs (at least I didn't see it mentioned), only DVD-Video mode.

[donpedro]

Well 5005 is not in US yet (at least I am not aware of that), but I can try to ask arround. How does one confirm what type is used ? How can I indicate if it is DVD-Video, DVD-VR or DVD+VR mode ?

[Gil T Pleasure]

Here are reasons why I think the DVD-Video mode:

(1) You cannot add new recording to DVD-R/DVD-RW/DVD+R discs after the disc is finalized. (see page 13)

(2) For DVD-RW / DVD-R / DVD+R disc recording each new recording is always placed right after previous recording, since the original recordings cannot be overwrited. (see page 23)

(3) After erasing the titles on the DVD+R & DVD-R/RW discs, the erased space could not be utilized. (see page 23)


All of the above limitations do not apply to VR mode.

[donpedro]

So there is no "tool" or somethink that can be used to confirm what format it is ?

[Gil T Pleasure]

A disc recorded in DVD-VR mode will contain .VRO file; a disc recorded in DVD+VR mode will contain VIDEO_RM folder. Unfortunately, the LVW-5005 is not yet available for us to check the contents of the disc it recorded at this time.

[donpedro]

A disc recorded in DVD-VR mode will contain .VRO file; a disc recorded in DVD+VR mode will contain VIDEO_RM folder. Unfortunately, the LVW-5005 is not yet available for us to check the contents of the disc it recorded at this time.

Isn't the .VRO file only for DVD-RAM ?

[donpedro]

Not sure about 5005, but I see in some posts that 5001 has VIDEO_RM folder. We will have to wait for 5005

[PhilipL]

Withdrawn

[donpedro]

Changed the title... it seems they are here...

http://www.computers4sure.com/product.asp?productid=1860519

[Cynthia]

Beat ya by a few days, see my post here ... https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=210972

It appears they're in stock elsewhere, since Monday... so they're probably generally available now.... I went with the free shipping from Computers4Sure Monday, and won't have my unit until next Thursday They're shipping from CA.

I really hope it's well built... I'm very nervous... though it's hard to resist .. it seems to do quite a bit.

[donpedro]

You know that there is new firmware that should fix couple of things already right ? I hope I am right since I follow what is happening with 5001 version and I believe thay use same firmware.

[Cynthia]

You know that there is new firmware that should fix couple of things already right ? I hope I am right since I follow what is happening with 5001 version and I believe thay use same firmware.

Are you saying the firmware which ships with the 5005 is obsolete already?

[richdvd]

LiteOn burners rule!
I love them

[donpedro]

Are you saying the firmware which ships with the 5005 is obsolete already?

Not sure, but you will know soon Don't forget to report back
Download : http://www.liteonit.com/DC/english/download.htm
LiteOn Forum : http://forum.liteonit.com.tw/

[Gil T Pleasure]

Yes, there is a new firmware for the unit. Here's the changeList.

ChangeList for Each Build Released 5005

For Build 052, changes since Build 044:
==============================================
A. New Feature and Enhancements
-------------------------------------------
1. Insert chapter manually when recording.
2. Show disc incompatible icon when the disc needs to make compatible.
3. OTR (One-Touch Recording) support.

B. Bug Fixes
-------------------------------------------
1. System cannot stop recording after DV stops playback.
2. Stability to stop recording DV.
3. Write Fail problem when recording VCD/SVCD.
4. Stability to manually insert chapter while recording.
5. Stability to record formatted CD-RW.
6. Stability to mark track.
7. Problem to play un-finalized recorded PAL SVCD.
8. Problem to show title menu after deleting some titles.
9. Problem to play/record un-finalized CD-RW in GUIDER.
10. Fail to import/edit recorded disc by Nero Vision Express 2.
11. Fail to burn edited disc by ULEAD Movie Factory 2.
12. Improve playback compatibility

http://www.liteonit.com/DC/english/download/5005.htm

[cchang]

I went to web site. There is a newer firmware build 055. Hope I will get the new firmware for my 5001 soon.

[Cynthia]

Yes, there is a new firmware for the unit. Here's the changeList.

ChangeList for Each Build Released 5005

For Build 052, changes since Build 044:
==============================================
A. New Feature and Enhancements
-------------------------------------------
1. Insert chapter manually when recording.
2. Show disc incompatible icon when the disc needs to make compatible.
3. OTR (One-Touch Recording) support.

B. Bug Fixes
-------------------------------------------
1. System cannot stop recording after DV stops playback.
2. Stability to stop recording DV.
3. Write Fail problem when recording VCD/SVCD.
4. Stability to manually insert chapter while recording.
5. Stability to record formatted CD-RW.
6. Stability to mark track.
7. Problem to play un-finalized recorded PAL SVCD.
8. Problem to show title menu after deleting some titles.
9. Problem to play/record un-finalized CD-RW in GUIDER.
10. Fail to import/edit recorded disc by Nero Vision Express 2.
11. Fail to burn edited disc by ULEAD Movie Factory 2.
12. Improve playback compatibility

http://www.liteonit.com/DC/english/download/5005.htm

Thanks for the link, turns out there is now an 055 version of firmware... it lists the following changes... did they release this thing before it was finished??

For Build 055, changes since Build 052:
==============================================
A. New Feature and Enhancements
-------------------------------------------
1. Timer Record to VCD/SVCD with blank disc, system will auto format the disc before start recording.

B. Bug Fixes
-------------------------------------------
1. Fix the PAL SVCD resolution prolblem.
2. Fix the problem that set overwrite after 49 titles can not use other free space.
3. Fix the problem that channel number does not match current channel while scanning.
4. Fix the problem that sometimes some channels will be disabled by default.
5. Fix the problem that System sometimes no respond while erasing recorded titles.
6. Fix the problem that channel number on LED/OSD is not correct after swap or modify channels.
7. Fix the problem that after erase/merge titles the Empty title information disappear.
8. Fix the problem that press EDIT repeatly more than 5 times when track marking system no respond
9. Fix some minor playback issues.
10. Fix the problem that recorded VCD/SVCD audio information is not correct.
11. Fix the problem that record VCD/SVCD using wrong audio sampling rate.

For Build 052, changes since Build 044:
==============================================
A. New Feature and Enhancements
-------------------------------------------
1. Insert chapter manually while recording by press 'EDIT' key.
2. Show disc incompatible icon when the disc needs to make compatible.
3. OTR (One-Touch Recording) support. While recording, press 'RECORD' will activate the OTR function. Starting from 30 minutes to total available recording time with a 30-minute interval.

B. Bug Fixes
-------------------------------------------
1. System cannot stop recording after DV stops playback.
2. Stability to stop recording DV.
3. Write Fail problem when recording VCD/SVCD.
4. Stability to manually insert chapter while recording.
5. Stability to record formatted CD-RW.
6. Stability to mark track.
7. Problem to play un-finalized recorded PAL SVCD.
8. Problem to show title menu after deleting some titles.
9. Problem to play/record un-finalized CD-RW in GUIDER.
10. Fail to import/edit recorded disc by Nero Vision Express 2.
11. Fail to burn edited disc by ULEAD Movie Factory 2.
12. Improve playback compatibility

[donpedro]

So Cynthia... How do you like it ?