HP announces new Disc labeling technology - No printer

[RAAGAAman]

Looks like it might do away with adhesive labels.

http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press_kits/2004/ces/prodserv.html


RG

[parsonsj]

Looks can be deceiving...

it needs a Drive that is capable,,,,Disks that are capable ,,, and software that is capable...


I'll keep my printer and sharpie


From the Prodinfo..

""
Summary
LightScribe Direct Disc Labeling is a new technology, invented
by HP, that enables CD and DVD images and disc labels to be
etched onto discs using the same drive that is used to burn the
data. The technology requires three elements to deliver lasting,
silkscreen-quality labels: 1) a LightScribe-enabled optical disc drive, 2) LightScribecompatible
media, and 3) LightScribe-supported software applications. HP’s intent is to
create a market standard by licensing LightScribe to manufacturers in the PC and
consumer electronics markets, including optical disc drive manufacturers, media
manufacturers, software providers and PC and consumer electronics brands.

""

[RabidDog]

IS this not a further refinement of the yamaha cdr-f1 that burns onto the unused portion of a CDR, a design ?

[tompika]

I'll keep my printer and sharpie

Just keep'em for a while... but I think it sounds promising...

[GizmoTheGremlin]

I hate adhesive labels. After picking pieces of one out of my cars CD player for several hours I've been looking for something better that is still cheap enough to make it worth while. I'd love to have a color thermal CD printer, but it's way too expensive.

This only burns in black and white, but it might be interesting. I'd have to see a few real examples before deciding.

[SatStorm]

Just turn upside down a DVD, re-insert on the burner and "burn" a Label?
It is promising if you ask me.
When 8X DVD DL Recorders became mainstream (let say, 18 months from now?), it could be an excellent labeling technick

[tompika]

[glenrey]

Now that's a sharp looking label Cool dude

[Craig Tucker]

Very nice, now only if it could do it in colour. Perhaps different colours on a temperature sensitive layer which could be determined by the intensity of the laser.

[GizmoTheGremlin]

I wouldn't buy a new burner just for this, but it would be a nice little added perk.

[SLICK RICK]

This looks interesting!!

SLICK RICK

[Tool Man]

This looks OK. I have the Yamaha CDRW-F1 with with the DISC T@2 function, and it is really just sort of a gimmick. Beside it's hard to find discs with a dark enough dye.

[Jo]

The method of using the burner's laser to create a label is however not a complete new invention as Yamaha accomplished this with the DiscT@2 technology too. But contrary of the DiscT@2 technology the LightScribe technology burns the label on top of the disc and not on the recording side.

[gmatov]

It does sound nice.

Probably half my DVDs look as tho' they've been etched, have to kind of tilt them to read them.

Hope they put it on some other drives. Don't think I want an HP.

Can retire the Sharpie, too. Handwriting ain't for beans.

Cheers,

George

[stiltman]

It does sound nice.
Can retire the Sharpie, too. Handwriting ain't for beans.
Cheers,
George

Boy, that's the truth....

[Jo]

does anyone no when this will be out to buy or the price

[dcsos]

Does the label take up part of the content?

With the YAMAHA example, you need to limit the data put on the disc and you use space on there not for media but for the LABEL

Is this the same deal..you lose part of the disc capacity to do PRINTING chores?

[NightWing]

It looks nice. But if they charge an arm and leg to allow others to implement it on their units and media then its dead before it starts.

Would be nice esp if they could have an erasable label for RW disk.

[GizmoTheGremlin]

shouldn't need to limit the data. it's on the other side of the disc.

I don't think it'll be expensive for the burner, just an additional feature. but the media may be slightly overpriced at first.

[NightWing]

Knowing HP. They will charge an arm and ledge for the license rights to use it. Wish another company had cooked it up. Oh well!

[GizmoTheGremlin]

I don't think that this is really ground breaking technology. There are probably dozens of different ways and types of media that can be used to get the exact same effect.

I don't know much about the way that patents work, but my guess is that they won't come in to play to any great extent.

My predictions again: burners will stay the same in price, software will be readily available for free, media will be slightly higher priced.

time will tell

[NightWing]

It depends on the nutty laws covering IP stuff. Since it basically put a layer of dye on the top side and have the laser burn it it may be easy or hard to patent/copywrite it.

I seem to remember a company that offers a laser printer/cutter under 1000 dollars. So the concept of laser art on a disk may be hard to patent like the different under/over burn stuff. Esp since the concept of dye based burnning disk is freely in use by just changing the chemical makeup of the dye.

Be nice if they could do a erasable top for RW disk.... Well I can dream.

[RAAGAAman]

Another Image. Looks like the resolution is equal to 1200 Dpi.






RG

[sammie]

There had better be some sort of interlock that forces you to flip the disk. Otherwise, I KNOW what I'll end up doing.

Seriously, looks pretty nice. I did wonder about "compatible media" as mentioned above as well. Suppose it wouldn't be anymore costly than printable disks though.

[gmatov]

Stiltman,

When did you see my handwriting? No, I take that back, probably the last time you got a prescription from your doctor. I'm surprised I can read my own. And I don't type all that well, either.

This shouldn't cost all that much. It wouldn't require a second dye layer, like a dual sided.

Just a refocusable laser, instead of focusing to the middel of a 1.2 mm disk, focus on the surface and burn pits in the surface of the plastic itself. It MAY require a second laser, rather than focusing, but they're putting 2 lasers in now, to burn CDs on your DVD burner.

How much can it cost, down the road, when the novelty wears off, and the early adopters have all gotten theirs?

Cheers,

George

[leebo]

Anyone besides me missing the obvious?

We need special labeless DVD's that don't play on several players like we need more ring tones for our cell phones that you can't hear who you're talking to.


How about making a disc that'll play on EVERY player? I'll even play extra.
I mean, how many years ago did they go to the moon?

[gmatov]

leebo,

Where are you from? You sound like one of our local talk show hosts, with a bunch of cell phonr callers, who has a running diatribe against the phone cameras and the like. Make the goddamned phone work, then give me gingerbread.

Exactly the same as laser printing on the flip side, and the damned thing won't play, before, or after.

Cheers,

George

[leebo]

Vivo en Los Angeles right now.

No, I'm just getting older and am more and more amazed at how the marketing of these "space age" devices centers on things like rings tones and pretty colors and it seems to work (though the devices don't always).

[GizmoTheGremlin]

Here is a little more news on this (week old now):

http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,114211,00.asp

HP estimates that a drive that supports the new technology will cost as little as an additional $10, and a disc will cost about a dime more.

I guess due to the licensing, that pretty much eliminates any possibility of a legal firmware upgrade giving us the ability to use this on our current drives.

[omega_weapon]

I wouldn't buy a new burner just for this, but it would be a nice little added perk.

Well, it looks nice. this way you dont need to buy labels or toner cartridges for your printer anymore, it seems very useful for me.