Maybe to late for me-MyDVD~Lite-ON-ASPI killer

[Micker_C]

Took to long to sign on here to get help! I'm very well versed with hardware & software; but completely new to DVD.

Ok, this is the scenerio (Took awhile, because I had to buy NERO).

Nero 5.5.10.54, because I didn't want Nero 6....And what I wanted was not easy to buy.

Lite-On 811S, that came with MyDVD -Didn't want that either. So I loaded Nero and got DVD Decrpter/DVDshrink -Both free. After loading & running Decrpter I got a message "Windows 2000, does not have a DVD decoder" -Or something close to that. Ok, so I try MS and find a reference for XP but not 2000.

*Sigh* -Ok, then I load MyDVD, thinking I'll get the missing file ---BSOD.

If that's not enough with the MYDOOM software I learn after booting into safe mode that it does NOT have an uninstaller -Damn...If I had known that up front, I would never have loaded it. Windows uninstall can't uninstall and a reboot gets a Kernal error -Essentially an ASPI Hook OS Killer.

Now this sucks, almost as much as having to wait a full day to post -Wonder how many other people ended up under a bridge, while waiting!

I was dilgent and tried to research, but I really was counting on some help here.

I'm now on my Daughters XP drive and the LiteOn is seen -But yes, I'm really hesitant to mess her drive up.

Thanks

[gameguru1360]

did you load the current aspi drivers for Win2k?? Usually when you install Windows, it doesn't install the aspi layer by default. Sometimes forcing nero to use its own wnaspi32.dll driver doesn't work. Just do a search on google for "aspi"...I believe the latest is either 4.71 or 4.72. The driver package also includes an aspi check program to see what version you're running.

Do you also have a dvdrom player like Windvd or Powerdvd??

[Micker_C]

Aspi drivers are loaded for win2000 Pro -I'm beginning to see a light shining through *Ouch*.

Looks like disable ASPI, rather than update....

I have WinDVD suite, It came with the ASUS A7N8X-E mobo and I thought about loading that on this Intel rig...But after that last shock treatment, I'm a little cautious as I don't know (though there is no mention) that it's propriotary too,I suspect it is as the Label sticks ASUS @ the top....Does that progo ASPI hook?

Now, not having had this issue before, wonder if I delete the ASPI drivers, I would get a boot....You...Think!

Does not excuse MyDVD not having an uninstaller, either...

"Starting with CDDA32 version 1.0, ASPI drivers are no longer necessary for NT. Instead we are using the SPTI (SCSI Pass Through Drivers) which do not require the user to install any special drivers. CDDA32 should work just fine right out of the box. "

"-To use ATAPI and SCSI drives under 2K with ASPI: Even with the introduction of the SPTI drivers, you can still use the ASPI interface with NT. Microsoft doesn't ship any ASPI drivers with Windows NT, so you have no choice but to use Adaptec's ASPI drivers. The trouble is that the ones that they are shipping now do not directly support ATAPI drives, only the SCSI ones and their controllers. ........... "

[lordsmurf]

Sounds bad. I'd start crawling the MS KB or just reformat and start from scratch (after a file backup to another drive).

MyDVD is MY-D (mighty) useless.

[Micker_C]

Sounds bad. I'd start crawling the MS KB or just reformat and start from scratch (after a file backup to another drive).

MyDVD is MY-D (mighty) useless.

Hey, Guru -I was getting desperate..

Yes, I can get @ the files; but I would like to recover the OS. By the way, does this mean DVD is dead for win2K?

Questions & solutions...

Never will I load MyDVD on anything, ever...again! Nero didn't crash the system, MyDVD did.

Fix for the OS? Is there one.....I have not run into this before, so I'm willing to learn something new...

Does this also mean that winXP, won't kill my baby girls drive -Loading Nero/DVD decrypter and shrink?

Ta

[bottle-necked]

You can get the 'dvd decoder' from a normal dvd player program like PowerDVD.

Many programs will give you the option to uninstall them by running the setup.exe (install) process again. The program will search for itself on your drive and if found will offer to either repair or uninstall. I say many but not all. I don't know about MYDVD because I don't use it. I have the full versions also....

Doesn't 2000 have System Restore? If you can boot to safe mode can't you simply run restore? That might get you back in.

If you can get up in safe mode and run 'msconfig' and see if MyDVD or Nero put any autorun programs in there and disable them. Actually to be on the safe side I would disable everything in msconfig until I got this problem figured out. I would also drag everything out of the startup folder on the start menu too while testing this problem.

You can also run the Windows install CD again. It will find itself on the drive and offer to repair Windows. You won't loose a thing except maybe a few Windows updates.
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I'm not going to mention any thing about how smart it is to have a backup system that works well. I won't tell you that I use Norton Ghost and have backup image files of my hard drives, nor that I can reimage a drive in a matter of a few minutes if something like this were to happen to my computer. I not going say a single word about that...

Good luck.

[Micker_C]

You can get the 'dvd decoder' from a normal dvd player program like PowerDVD.

Many programs will give you the option to uninstall them by running the setup.exe (install) process again. The program will search for itself on your drive and if found will offer to either repair or uninstall. I say many but not all. I don't know about MYDVD because I don't use it. I have the full versions also....

Doesn't 2000 have System Restore? If you can boot to safe mode can't you simply run restore? That might get you back in.

I'm not going to mention any thing about how smart it is to have a backup system that works well. I won't tell you that I use Norton Ghost and have backup image files of my hard drives, nor that I can reimage a drive in a matter of a few minutes if something like this were to happen to my computer. I not going say a single word about that stuff...

Good luck.

Yes, I'm sitting here...Thumbing minutes...

Ok, I see one thing here that's different, I loaded MYDVD before PowerVD..That may have been a mistake...right off the top, maybe; but any progo that does not have a good uninstall aspect should always be avoided, at all costs -Yes, we see an example...Right here.

I might give up on restore, why? Because the very heart of the OS was killed {Kernal}, It's very hard to recover from that kill, not even Ghost -That requires a drive to back up to. Backup, well..Sir -That's why I installed a CD-W/Come DVD writer----For Backup.

Ok, I get it.....But will this happen with XP?

[bottle-necked]

Well, just run the Windows CD again and install "Over the Top". It will repair itself leaving all your program intact. That will get you back in for sure. I would take lordsmurf's advice and do a clean install soon. It does seem that you have hosed Windows....

Good luck.

[bottle-necked]

Ok, I get it.....But will this happen with XP?

I've tore up XP (and everything since Windows V3.0) in about every way U can image but I've never seen this problem before. Maybe I've just been luck....

Also you don't actually need a seperate drive to use Ghost as a backup system. You have 40G now, just create a 10G partition and use that for your ghost images. lol It has saved me many times. I don't work on Windows much anymore, I just reimage.

[The village idiot]

If you can boot to safe mode (might be a big if) run the latest service pack for 2000. Very likely the kernel will be replaced with a newer version. But that might not fix your problems. Next you might need to boot from the win2000 CD and do a repair, just make sure you do not choose the option to fix the registry as this will mess up all the installed software. If that doesn't work, you will have to boot again from the win2000 disk, and choose repair, but this time choose the option to repair the registry. If you have the emergency repair floppy, you might be able to save the installed software. If you do not have a repair disk, then you will have to install all the application software again, but your files should mostly still be intact.

If all that doesn't work, then you will need to format the drive or replace the drive with a new one. If you replace with a new drive, then you can put the old drive in the computer as a slave, and still be able to access the files. You will still have to install all the application software though.

[Micker_C]

No Kidding, Win2k is pretty much DOA, but the point was will this happen on XP, I have no intention of taking her drive out. I can get my files, I'll just slave the drive to the XP drive.

bottle-necked I appreciated any response, always gives the 'Mind' another avenue for thought -No response is far worse than a bad response...

Will Nero/DVD decrypter & Shrink give issues on winXP? I mean will it run & copy DVD, without crashing? I can't kill my baby girls OS, or I will need to hide under her Bear & hope I'm covered...Lol

[lordsmurf]

I had to use MS KB #307545 recently for my XP PRO system that had a problem.

See if MS has a similar one for Win2K.

It's your last hope to restore an unbootable system running an NT OS.

Good luck, and hope you are familiar with DOS.

[Micker_C]

I had to use MS KB #307545 recently for my XP PRO system that had a problem.

Good luck, and hope you are familiar with DOS.

That's the point, will I have a real problem with XP & Nero/Decryp/Shrink? I have not had time to check out anything else, but as you listed MS KB -What was in it?

As for win2k Pro -Slaved & saved -Will reformat that drive. That's why I didn't have time

I'm cautious now, so please explain #307545; I'm still working on recovery, which is going just fine -

DOS, I was around when it was invented..Lol

Does this mean DVD writing is not supported by win2k Pro? Hey, I'm interested here...Along with the XP & KB answer? I know you Guru's have an answer, right -Don't see a reference to the KB #? Well -How stupid could I be, really stupid...Huh...

By the way: Lite-On 811S{Superseded by the 812}, Pioneer 107 are the two best drives for overall backups...Just a thought! For nothing....

Ok...{I'm Officially STUPID} - I can't find a reference to the KB.