Erstellen einer DVD-Image

[Magic H.]

Woran kann es liegen, dass bei Erstellung einer "Image-Datei" mittels "Nero Burning Room 6.0.0" und einem neuen DVD- RW-Laufwerke (NEC 1300-A), DVDs aus einer Serie (6) des gleichen Produzenten, bei einigen es klappt, aber bei anderen sofort nach dem Start oder etwa in der Mitte, die Meldung kommt "Die DVD kann nicht gelesen werden" und der Vorgang abgebrochen wird?
Für die Image steht eine eigene Partition mit 10 GByte auf der Master-Festplatte zu Verfügung.Das OS ist Windows XPpro, CPU 700 MHerz.
Vielen Dank für jede Hilfe im voraus!
M.H.

[mats.hogberg]

My school German leaves me a bit confused here - what are you trying to do? Please try to explain in English!

/Mats

[bbulldog]

mats.hogberg
i will try and help as my german is pretty good
been living there for the past 29 years

also wie ich verstanden habe, du probierst ein image von ein vorhandener DVD zu erstellen und der DVD-Brenner macht nur halb.
ich habe selbst den NEC 1300 A und habe das noch nicht probiert aber wird ich morgen machen. hast du den neuen firmware drauf? ist der version 109 glaube ich. hast du auch nichts in hintergrund an laufen? oder probierst von der DVD zu lesen gleichzeitig.

welche nero version ist das? ich hab die 6.0.0.19 und habe keine probleme mit. wird mich erkundigen bei bekannten die den gleichen brenner haben und morgen nochmal posten

gruss bb

[Magic H.]

Lieber herr Mats.hogberg.danke für ihre antwort. ich möchte von DVDs mit magischen aufzeichnungen kopien machen. Bisher machte ich dies mit VHS. Dazu kaufte ich mir einen NEC-DVD-1300A und Nero Burning Rom 6.3.0. Ich bin aber PC-Anfänger. zuerst hatte ich probleme, weil mein altes DVD-Laufwerk scheinbar nicht kompatibel ist. Ich habe dieses ausgebaut! Habe gelesen,dass es besser sei nicht direkt zu kopieren sondern zuerst eine Kopie auf die Festplatte zu legen (Image) und dann von dort zu brennen. Aus einer Serie von 6 DVDs konnte ich dies ohne probleme machen! Von Nr 2 und 5 kam die meldung, kann nicht gelesen werden (also keine Image)machen! Mit POWER DVD lassen sich alle einwandfrei abspielen!
Vielen Dank für Ihre Mühen!
Gruß
Magic H.

[mats.hogberg]

Have you tried ripping it to the festplatte with DVDShrink oder DVDDecrypter? If those wont work, I don't know what will!

/Mats

[Phantom Of The Opera]

Lieber herr Mats.hogberg.danke für ihre antwort. ich möchte von DVDs mit magischen aufzeichnungen kopien machen. Bisher machte ich dies mit VHS. Dazu kaufte ich mir einen NEC-DVD-1300A und Nero Burning Rom 6.3.0. Ich bin aber PC-Anfänger. zuerst hatte ich probleme, weil mein altes DVD-Laufwerk scheinbar nicht kompatibel ist. Ich habe dieses ausgebaut! Habe gelesen,dass es besser sei nicht direkt zu kopieren sondern zuerst eine Kopie auf die Festplatte zu legen (Image) und dann von dort zu brennen. Aus einer Serie von 6 DVDs konnte ich dies ohne probleme machen! Von Nr 2 und 5 kam die meldung, kann nicht gelesen werden (also keine Image)machen! Mit POWER DVD lassen sich alle einwandfrei abspielen!
Vielen Dank für Ihre Mühen!
Gruß


Magic H.

Die sechs DVDs gehoeren alle derselben Serie und die Fehlermeldung haben Sie nur mit Nr. 2 und 5 empfangen? d.h. keine Probleme mit den Nummern 1, 3, 4 und 6??

(Ich werde versuchen, Ihnen zu helfen, aber mein Deutsch ist schwach, und Sie werden ein bisschen Geduld brauchen, von ihm etwas zu machen 8)

[Phantom Of The Opera]

All:

As I understand it, here is the OP's problem:

He is a newbie to this kind of thing. He is trying to back up encrypted DVDs and not having much success. He assumed the problem was with his old DVD drive (not sure if he means reader or burnere) and got himself a NEC 1300. He's using Nero 6.x.

It seems he is trying to back up a series of 6 DVDs (if I understood him right), and he gets error reports with numbers 2 and 5 (something along the lines of "Cannot read disk"), and he's looking for help. Unstated in his post is what happened with the other disks (#s 1,3,4 & 6).

I am trying to get more info from him. Although he doesn't say so, I am convinced he's not using a rip program (he doesn't seem to know they exist), just trying to read from the DVD. That would explain the error message, but not why he only gets errors with Disks 2 & 5. I have asked him about the other disks, let's see what he says.

Also, I'm not sure if his 6 disks are part of a series or just a random collection of 6 disks he happens to have with him. If the latter, it might explain the lack of errors with some disks, because they may simply be non-encrypted ones. But if they are a 6-disk series, I can't imagine just two disks being encrypted and the others not.

[bbulldog]

Hi,

no he is not using a rip program but nero to make images on his harddrive and copy them, could be that they are too big????
DVD's 1,3,4 & 6 burn ok so his bet is to use DVD Shrink or some other ripper

the disks are from a series of 6 not 6 seperate ones.

also Magic H wie gross sind die DVD's die nicht funktionieren??
hast du auch DVD-Shrink probiert, erst zu rippen auf den festplatte dann mit nero diese dateien als DVD-Video brennen?

[Magic H.]

Dear Helper! Most of my german question about making a DVD-Image you did understud! The problem with my old DVD-reader could I solve! I build it out of the PC! As I mentioned, I could make from 4 DVDs a Image on a spezial partition (6 Gbytes) from the primare HD with 40 Gbites) and after it. I could burn it on a new DVD! It worked without problem and I could watch it! on PC and stand alone DVD-Driver! What I dont understand is, that it doesn´t work with 3 other DVDs from the same production and in the meantime with other short DVDs (10, 26, and 37 min)! I´ve had the rip tool DVD-Shrink, but I read under NEC-ND information, that with two or more "Rip-programms" it could be, that NEC doesn´t work correct!??? and it can create crashes!? I get it too!
My mean-problem is: that I don´t know where the shortcomingis:
In a faulty DVD writer and reader?
In faulty DVD-disks?
In a faulty software Nero Burning Rom 6.3.00 pro
In a faulty installation or other mistakes in handling of it all.
I´m a novice in PC-handling and 75 year old. I kow no one in my acquaintance who can help me with "PC-Problemes"
Many thanks for every help and best regards
M.H.

All:

As I understand it, here is the OP's problem:

He is a newbie to this kind of thing. He is trying to back up encrypted DVDs and not having much success. He assumed the problem was with his old DVD drive (not sure if he means reader or burnere) and got himself a NEC 1300. He's using Nero 6.x.

It seems he is trying to back up a series of 6 DVDs (if I understood him right), and he gets error reports with numbers 2 and 5 (something along the lines of "Cannot read disk"), and he's looking for help. Unstated in his post is what happened with the other disks (#s 1,3,4 & 6).

I am trying to get more info from him. Although he doesn't say so, I am convinced he's not using a rip program (he doesn't seem to know they exist), just trying to read from the DVD. That would explain the error message, but not why he only gets errors with Disks 2 & 5. I have asked him about the other disks, let's see what he says.

Also, I'm not sure if his 6 disks are part of a series or just a random collection of 6 disks he happens to have with him. If the latter, it might explain the lack of errors with some disks, because they may simply be non-encrypted ones. But if they are a 6-disk series, I can't imagine just two disks being encrypted and the others not.

[mats.hogberg]

I'd recommend these steps:

• Rip with DVDShrink. Shrink to fit on DVD-R if needed.
  Make sure that all vobs and ifos are in a folder named VIDEO_TS
  Create an empty folder named AUDIO_TS (if it doesn't exist) beside VIDEO_TS
  Make DVD ISO image with imgtools classic
  Burn image with DVDDecrypter.

This should work regardless of source DVD type and/or protection. At least I have never encountered a disc that wouldn't copy using these steps.

/Mats

[bbulldog]

that sounds good mats.hogberg

Magic H i take my hat off to you 75 years old and doing this with computers...

[Mr anderson]

I'd recommend these steps:

• Rip with DVDShrink. Shrink to fit on DVD-R if needed.
  Make sure that all vobs and ifos are in a folder named VIDEO_TS
  Create an empty folder named AUDIO_TS (if it doesn't exist) beside VIDEO_TS
  Make DVD ISO image with imgtools classic
  Burn image with DVDDecrypter.

This should work regardless of source DVD type and/or protection. At least I have never encountered a disc that wouldn't copy using these steps.

/Mats

anyway, if he did manage 2 get passed the protection wiv out dvd shrink, would'nt there be like a protection error i.e. copy right of wanner bros etc? u should 1st bk it up then send it bk 2 ur burner ( these 1s i got down 2 a "T" ehehhe ) have fun