dvdr will play in computer, but not standalone

[spidermonkey]

I have tried several methods of copying a dvd to dvd+r. All of them work in my computer, but not in my standalone.

I'm using Memorex +R, Plextor px708a drive, Digix HT1056a standalone player.

Here are the methods I've tried:
-Rip with DVDdecrypter in file mode, it was small enough so i burnt it with Roxio 6 as a data file.
-Rip with DVDdecryptor in file mode, shrink with CloneDVD and burn with Clone as DVD Video.
-Rip and shrink with DVDShrink, burn with CopyToDVD (however, the settings were to use ISO. UDF was not enabled)
-Rip <5gb movie with DVDdecryptor in ISO mode, write with Decryptor in ISO mode.

In all cases, I used the VIDEO_TS folder and the blank AUDIO_TS folder. And, from what i've read up ripping and burning ISO with DVDDecrypter is supposed to be one of the most reliable ways to get it to play in your standalone player.

Does anyone have any suggestions of another way to do this? Anything else I can try?

[northcat_8]

2 things...

Reading and writing the ISO with Decrypter is the easiest and should be 100% reliable.

Since your wasn't there are only 2 things that can be wrong...

Either your Stand alone DVD player does not play DVD+R's (which is very possible)

Or your media is bad. I would take the disc to Best Buy and try it in a DVD player that you know for certain plays +R media. If it plays then you know it's your stand alone. If it still won't play, then save yourself the trouble and go buy some RitekG04 discs.

[spidermonkey]

thanks for the suggestions! i will try that out. do you know of anywhere i can get singles of the ritek G04 media? everywhere I look, you have to buy at least 25.

[Viper10000]

spidermonkey,

I don't see anything wrong with the different ways you described. I guess it comes down with the compability issue of the Memorex +R media and your Digix HT1056a standalone. I suggest you try the following:

1. Try to play your created DVD+R on other standalone to see if it plays (i.e. with friends, family members, or your local electronic dealers)
2. Try other brand such as RITEK, or RITEK-made-for-brandname (i.e. TDK, Maxell, Fuji, etc.), or PRINCO. I have 6 DVD Players, and always have success with this 2 brand.

Remember the computer is the most forgiving, so it wasn't a surprise that you can play on it, but it does prove that you have a successful burn.

Cheers,

P.S. While writing this, I did not realize that northcat_8 already answered your question. Anyway, if you want to try out some RITEK and don't want to buy 25, just buy the brandname like TDK and Maxell. I'm pretty sure, RITEK is the media for these 2, and I think they sell single for these.

[countryboy]

Northcat_8 is probably right. I think that I've seen a report about +R problems with Digix standalone. Just check it again. And Memorex is not very reliable...

Countryboy

[spidermonkey]

yes, i was beginning to suspect the +r media. but, memorex was one of the brands that someone on this site reported that worked with my digix and thats why I tried it out.

i'll try the riteks and let you know how it goes....

[northcat_8]

Like Viper said:

the computer is the most forgiving, so it wasn't a surprise that you can play on it, but it does prove that you have a successful burn.

Your media is burnt on the disc so that only leaves media or stand alone compatibility that could be the problem.

[Bodene]

Memorex +R media is reliable. It's manufactured by Ricoh, same as many other good quality brands. Tiz the Memorex -R's that are cheapos. I've burnt prolly a dozen backups using Memorex +R media and haven't had a single problem, and I've spoken to several others who have experienced the same success with them.

Last I looked, I couldn't locate any G04's in +R format. Not even sure they make em in +R.

Looking at how he sez he ripped, processed and burnt the movies.....it seems he's avoiding the easiest, most reliable ways to backup.

Rip with DVDdecrypter in file mode, it was small enough so i burnt it with Roxio 6 as a data file. You can't just rip and burn, cuz the file structure is all wrong. It has to be re-authored/processed with shrink or dvd2one before being burnt.

Rip and shrink with DVDShrink, burn with CopyToDVD (however, the settings were to use ISO. UDF was not enabled) Why do it in ISO? Had he just processed the files in shrink and burnt em UDF-ISO it prolly woulda worked.

Northcat is right, the ISO copy with decrypter should have worked. Therefore, try this....

Rip with DVD Decrypter in FILE mode to make sure u get all files. Process it with DVD Shrink. Take those output files, put em in a VIDEO_TS folder and burn that folder onto yer dvdr using UDF-ISO mode. I recommend downloading a demo of Nero and try burning those shrink output files using the DVD-Video mode. Nero provides the VIDEO_TS folder, so all u have to do is drag the files-only into it. Remember, 2 bups, 2 ifos, and yer vobs.

It's also possible that yer standalone isn't compatible with yer format. As someone else suggested, try other standalones.

[spidermonkey]

Thanks, Bodene. Actually, I dont HAVE to use +R media, I was just trying out a brand that someone else with my standalone said worked. So, i'm gonna try out the ritek's -R to see how my standalone likes those.

Rip with DVDdecrypter in file mode, it was small enough so i burnt it with Roxio 6 as a data file. You can't just rip and burn, cuz the file structure is all wrong. It has to be re-authored/processed with shrink or dvd2one before being burnt.

whoops. but it does work in my computer.........

Rip and shrink with DVDShrink, burn with CopyToDVD (however, the settings were to use ISO. UDF was not enabled) Why do it in ISO? Had he just processed the files in shrink and burnt em UDF-ISO it prolly woulda worked.

yeah...i THOUGHT udf should have been included, but I started burning before I found that setting. It also included the Joilet feature, which I've heard standalones don't like. If it would make the difference, I could try burning that again with the UDF setting enabled.

I recommend downloading a demo of Nero and try burning those shrink output files using the DVD-Video mode. Nero provides the VIDEO_TS folder, so all u have to do is drag the files-only into it. Remember, 2 bups, 2 ifos, and yer vobs.

i thought about this, but given mixed reviews on Nero's software, I was going to use this software as a last resort and try some of the other software first. And since the reliable Decryptor ISO read and write method didn't work, I have a feeling that my standalone is the problem. even though its new...its fairly cheap and I have my doubts about it.

Looking at how he sez he ripped, processed and burnt the movies.....it seems he's avoiding the easiest, most reliable ways to backup.

um...i'm just trying methods that i've learned. if you know something i don't....please let me know.

[jimmalenko]

Rip with DVDdecrypter in file mode, it was small enough so i burnt it with Roxio 6 as a data file. You can't just rip and burn, cuz the file structure is all wrong. It has to be re-authored/processed with shrink or dvd2one before being burnt.

Am I interpreting this correctly when I narrate:
"I ripped files from DVD to HD in file mode and ended up with IFO, BUP and VOB files on HD. Movie was a DVD5 so I burnt it straight away."

If so, you can do this without a problem. There is no need to reauthor or shrink a DVD5. Just rip and burn.

[spidermonkey]

That is correct, Jim. Thats what I did. And it worked on my comptuer.

[jimmalenko]

I wonder how many DVD5s Bodene has unnecessarily reauthored !

[Bodene]

Prolly more than one or two.....but on the occasions when I've tried going straight from decrypter to dvdr, it wouldn't work. Nero would refuse to burn it due to not having the correct file structure.

How many coasters have I made in several dozen burns? 1. And that was due to some fluke *I* caused by screwing around with menus in shrink. I'd say my techniques have a purty decent success rate =)

Alot of people make oodles of coasters before becoming consistently successful. I'm just offering my technique, cuz I know it works and it's simple.

Spider.....Nero does have an iffy fog around it, but me, and many others, have used it for years with no..none...zero zip...problems.

Peace

[jimmalenko]

How many coasters have I made in several dozen burns? 1. And that was due to some fluke *I* caused by screwing around with menus in shrink. I'd say my techniques have a purty decent success rate =)

Alot of people make oodles of coasters before becoming consistently successful. I'm just offering my technique, cuz I know it works and it's simple.

...and it takes a lot longer than is necessary....

Each to their own.

[spidermonkey]

Thanks everyone for the help! I got a few ritek g04's and on the first try got a successful burn and playback on my computer and standalone. guess my standalone likes the -r media.

Thanks again everyone!