DVD copy on the fly ?

[manub]

I just bought a Pioneer DVR-106D and I'm really happy for it. I used it to replace my LG 8161B DVD-ROM. Now I'm thinkin' about upgrading my LG CD-RW GCE 8481B (48x24x48) to a new combo drive like the LG GCC-4520B. It will be possible to copy DVDs on the fly at 4x ? I have also the need to put DVD RW and CD RW on the same IDE channel as I've got 2 ATA133 HDDs.

[kenshin himura]

i dont think too many people will recommend copying dvd on the fly. the smallest problem will mess up your copy.

[manub]

Ok. But buying the LG Combo will my rips became faster ? DVR-106D is really slow on rips ! Thanks for your patience

[tompika]

DVR-106D is really slow on rips !

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=747029#747029

[Wetmonkey]

yes you can rip faster with a second dvdrom. Certain drives are faster at ripping then others so do a lil research on which you want to pick up. It is also a good idea to rip and read from another drive to save the wear and tear from you 106/ A06. Also most manufactured dvd's wont fit onto a single dvdr/+r so on the fly isnt feasible.
Tomika snuck in before me, he has a link to the firmware to up your ao6 ripping speed.
Drip Drip

[Wetmonkey]

yes you can rip faster with a second dvdrom. Certain drives are faster at ripping then others so do a lil research on which you want to pick up. It is also a good idea to rip and read from another drive to save the wear and tear from you 106/ A06. Also most manufactured dvd's wont fit onto a single dvdr/+r so on the fly isnt feasible.

[manub]

So the two possibly answers are :

1 - Upgrading my firmware (already 1.07 but not NIL's one)
2 - Buying a DVD-ROM drive (or a COMBO)

Perhaps I'll take the second choice as I've got a friend of mine that needs a CD-RW. Thanks for your answers.

[rhegedus]

Why would you want to copy 'on the fly'?

[manub]

I'd like to copy on-the-fly data DVDs, but I will still make some tries on RWs. I'm also interested in getting faster rip speeds and to not fatigue too much my DVR-106D

[rhegedus]

If the DVD ripper and burner are on the same channel then speed will be compromised since you wont be able to read and write as fast as you would if they were on separate channels.

Go for the fail safe option: rip/copy to HD then burn.

[manub]

I thought about this and I'm happy to receive a confirm. However, ripping DVDs with a drive that's not the burner it can be better, afaik.

[rhegedus]

Many DVD burners are limited in the speed at which they can rip DVDs, so I'd use either a DVD-ROM or a DVD/CDRW combo to rip the files.

[rubberball]

Go for the fail safe option: rip/copy to HD then burn.

100% FAIL SAFE.

[chunkT]

I have a A06 and the slot load Pioneer DVD Reader that I copy 4X on the fly and not a problem with any. Of course it has to be a non-encrypted dvd-r or another copyable disc.

My machine specs are:

P4 3.2 Ghz w/ 1 Gig Ram
(2) Hitachi 250 gig Serial ATA in RAID0
Pioneer A06 and Pioneer Slot Load Reader (not sure model)

Dont know if because the main disc drives are on the ATA Serial bus and the burners are on IDE that I have no issues but havent done a coaster yet.. taking a guess over 1000 burns on this machine.

[lapaz]

I copy DVD-Rs on the fly between an internal DVD-rom and external DVD Plextor 708 writer without problems at 2.4X speed. 4X also works, but at the start my buffer has problems filling up. I guess because the DVD-rom read speed is lagging behind.

[StealthKing]

I use Alcohal 120% to copy on the fly.
I used 1x media since it's all I had available.
On a DVD-RW
I havn't had any errors on my Iomega Super DVD writer yet.

Both drives are on 1 IDE cable also.

[Zechnubis]

I just bought a Pioneer DVR-106D and I'm really happy for it. I used it to replace my LG 8161B DVD-ROM.

Why buy a new DVD-Rom? Why not just use that DVD-Rom, the LG8161B?

[manub]

DVR-106D is a Writer ...

[Zechnubis]

DVR-106D is a Writer ...

Yes, i know. But you (or someone else in the thread) talked about buying a new dvd-rom for ripping. Thats why i pointed out that i thought you could use the DVD-ROM(!) LG 8161B drive. I got one of those myself, and they are quite good.
Im not a total no-brainer, you know. I know the 106 is a burner...

But i will make my suggestions one more time.:
1. Use the Pioneer for burning.
2. Use the LG drive for reading.

Get the picture?

[manub]

oh ok sorry but perhaps I haven't explained my problem about CD-R writing speed of DVR-106D ... 16x is too slow for me (I often need to make really quick copies of CDs). so I bought a LiteON Combo LTC-48161H - 16x DVD and 48x24x48 CDRW - to replace my old CD writer and also have the chance to read DVDs. a great drive and I paid it only €10, by selling old LG DVD and CDRW drive on eBay

I hope now I've been more precise

[Zechnubis]

Ahhhh! Now i see the light!
That explains it all. Now even I understand

Yeah, 16x is a little slow, but for me it was faster than 8x, so at themoment im satisfied.
And well, as long as your problem is solved... How did it go? Can you copy "on-the-fly" with no problems?

[lordsmurf]

I copy on-the-fly at 2x and 4x all the time with zero problems.

[69Dartman]

I have done on the fly off single layer sources on the fly at 4x with no buffer hits and I have also done the same at 8x. I have my DVD burner on one IDE channel as master the my LiteOn 166 dvd reader as master on the other IDE channel. My other burners are slave to these two. The 166 rips single layer fast enough to keep up on a clean disk. Dual layer will probably work becuase of buffer protection but they're read much slower so it might hit the buffer and possibly coaster out or just slow down a bit waiting for data depending on your hardware and luck. If you have mission critical run it down to the HD first, or test with a RW.

[manub]

I have both reader and writer on the same channel, I've tried only one copy on the fly and got a coaster, but not for buffer underrun, I think that was a source problem. I'll try again later with other sources ... now I'm capturing some videos to DVD, when I'll need to copy them, I'll let you know

[hech54]

I copy on-the-fly at 2x and 4x all the time with zero problems.

Me too. I use B's Recorder Gold to copy on the fly....ZERO problems so far. I use it when I want to go from a +R disc to a -R disc only though. Any other time I use DVDDecrypter in ISO mode(s).

[b1tchm4gn3t]

Combo drive AND a dvd writer on same channel here....copies a full dvd on the fly just under 20 minutes, never a glitch so far....knock on wood.